>From my experience in growing in Portugal, I have found that the racism in the 
>urban areas is pure racism, which is minimal anyway, but the racism 
>experienced in the countryside is basically due to sheer ignorance of the 
>mostly uneducated there. It has improved.
What I fail to understand is that many Italians and Spanish are so dark skinned 
and yet they are very racist towards others. Italy must step up import of 
mirrors so that these people should see who they really are...

________________________________
From: 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net 
<[email protected]>
Sent: 21 November 2023 17:56
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GRN] Portuguese Racism through the Looking Glass (O Heraldo, 
18/11/2023)

Those surveys are completely worthless and the questions are clearly biased. 
For instance, had people been asked whether they felt Germans were harder 
working, more knowledgeable, more honest than Italians, you can be sure that a 
large majority would have answered positively. Since Germans and Italians are 
racially identical, the issue of racism would not arise. But if instead of 
Germans and Italians the questions were directed at "blacks" and "whites", 
similar answers would immediately be classified as evidence of racism...

The survey may have shown that many Portuguese people are ignorant, not racist. 
Unless a majority would have answered positively to a question on whether they 
had ever discriminated against a person on account of "race"...

But by all means please continue trying to "prove" Portuguese people are 
racists... And then ask them whether they think that a caste system is fair...

All the best

Nuno Cardoso da Silva


Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 2:30 AM
From: "V M" <[email protected]>
To: "Goa-Research-Net" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GRN] Portuguese Racism through the Looking Glass (O Heraldo, 
18/11/2023)
https://www.publico.pt/2020/06/27/sociedade/noticia/european-social-survey-62-portugueses-manifesta-racismo-1921713

in translation: "European Social Survey: 62% of Portuguese people express racism
Data from the large European survey reveal that the older the respondents, the 
stronger their prejudices. Young people also show high percentages of racist 
beliefs. Education and income do not erase biological and cultural racism. 
Those who disagree with all racist beliefs represent only 11% of the 
population."


On Tue, 21 Nov 2023, 00:10 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net, 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:
The overwhelming majority of Portuguese people do not perceive racism as an 
issue, because it isn't. Of the many thousands African and Asian people - or 
with African and Asian ancestry - who live in Portugal, only a few may have 
ever been confronted with racist attitudes. Because obviously there still are 
some racist people in Portugal. But it isn't fair to use those very few 
incidents as typical of our country and people. Should we ignore those few 
incidents? Of course not, but they should mostly be seen as just another form 
of rude or asocial behaviour, the victims of which are as likely to be European 
Portuguese as African or Asian. But for some strange reason some people prefer 
to identify such bad behaviour as racist, when the victims are African or 
Asian. This reminds me of an anecdote told a few years ago by our Goan Prime 
minister. When he was in school, as a boy, one of his colleagues called him 
"negro" because of his darker skin. When his mother - who is white - complained 
about it, her son António turned to her and said: "Mum, you must agree that I 
am indeed a bit darker!"... A typical intelligent reaction of someone who 
refused to see evil racism in everything which was said to him... Unfortunately 
not everyone is a smart as António Costa...

Nuno Cardoso da Silva


Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 at 1:38 PM
From: "'rochelle pinto' via Goa-Research-Net" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [GRN] Portuguese Racism through the Looking Glass (O Heraldo, 
18/11/2023)

That’s an interesting perspective, Joana, thanks.
Rochelle

Le lundi 20 novembre 2023 à 18:49:31 UTC+5:30, Joana Filipa Passos 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :


Hello!
I am sorry, but while it is true Portugal does has not acknowledged it is own 
inherent racism, which is actually on the rise because of immigrants  -(being 
Indian, Bengladeshi and Nepali, as well as Africans and Eastern Europeans 
regarded with suspicion), my point is that in order to understand current day 
Portugal you have to get a sense of proportion. You are making misplaced 
generalizations.

To be honest, Chega, our very own xenophobic party, may well reach 20% in the 
next elections I fear.
In spite of that fact:
Was the Goan community o topic in political discussion after the fall of our 
Prime Minister António Costa? It was not.
Is the memory of empire and of the Portuguese colonial past relevant for people 
below 40 years old in Portugal? It is not.
 What is the youth focused on? They are Europeans, and they look up to Northern 
Europe.
You have a racist discourse on the rise in Rural, interior areas, well there 
are many immigrants working in agriculture. Local population does not like to 
live with them.

Does this rural population and their opinions get a lot of media attention in 
Portugal? They do not. The last time this situation really became visible was 
during the pandemic, because of the need to vaccinate everyone.
So,  I am not sure current racist discourses are related to the colonial past.  
I think they have to do with the present, with immigration, and the great 
majority of the population  (the 80% who do not vote "Chega", do not really 
care. They are concerned with other challenges and agendas (like the cost of 
living).

The article on Portugal although relevant and true to a certain extent really 
strikes me as "old-fashined", and slightly out of touch.
I completely respect everyone's opinion, I am just offering mine because what I 
am reading seems wrong, and I feel I have to contribute.

Joana

V M <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> escreveu no dia sábado, 
18/11/2023 à(s) 05:53:
https://www.heraldgoa.in/Cafe/PORTUGUESE-RACISM-THROUGH-THE-LOOKING-GLASS/213769

It’s not something to take very seriously as yet, but the distinct uptick in 
racism in Portugal has begun to target Goans in that country, as seen in the 
poster alongside this column, which began circulating widely on social media 
after the shock resignation of António Costa last week. This cartoonishly 
bigoted meme evidently originated before the political upheaval, from an 
ethno-nationalist Telegram network advertising itself as “identity channel for 
Portuguese by blood (“para Portugueses de sangue”), and interestingly 
illustrates what is usually strenuously denied. It is an unusual paradox which 
needs to be understood in detail: on the one hand, 21st century Portugal is 
certifiably less racist than most European countries – and especially so with 
regards to Indians – but at the same time, the country and its citizens both 
stubbornly resist any feedback or commentary that suggests racism is any kind 
of problem at all, as well as the suggestion there is more work to be done in 
order to become more accepting of its own citizens of different ethnicities.

There are many factors in play here, including the dramatic surge of support 
for the far-right political party Chega (the name means “Enough” in 
Portuguese), which started its political innings in the 2019 polls with just 
one seat in parliament, but then catapulted into third-place overall in last 
year’s snap elections (when Costa led his Socialists to an extraordinary 
outright majority) with 7.2 percent of overall votes and 12 members of 
parliament. Its worrisome rise also neatly encapsulates the Portuguese 
conundrum: this overtly xenophobic party is continually racist in its messaging 
– for just one example, its president André Ventura called for a fellow MP to 
“be returned to her own country” – but even its most fervent opponents bend 
over backwards to parse the hate as “populist” instead of admitting the 
obvious. In 2020, entirely ludicrously, Chega even led a parade through Lisbon, 
in which the avowed racists kept chanting that “Portugal is not racist.”

Such surreal politics are patently absurd to any outside observer, and derive 
directly from Portugal’s schizophrenic relationship to its colonial past. In 
this regard, I appreciate the analysis of Cláudia Castelo, historian from the 
University of Coimbra, in her paper ‘Portuguese Non-Racism: On the historicity 
of an invented tradition’, which delineates how the myth of “better 
colonialism” was foisted on the Portuguese people. This patently silly notion 
was born in the 18th and 19th centuries, she writes, and then became the 
official position of the government when “the Estado Novo – the Portuguese 
authoritarian and colonialist regime that ruled in Portugal between 1933 and 
1974 – appropriated the ideas of the Brazilian social scientist Gilberto Freyre 
about a supposedly special relation of the Portuguese with the tropics. 
Luso-Tropicalism argued that the Portuguese, in contrast with other colonisers, 
possessed a special ability for adapting to life in the tropics, through 
miscegenation and cultural interpenetration. This tropical vocation was not the 
product of political or economic self-interest, but rather resulted from an 
absence of colour prejudice and a creative empathy that, for Freyre, was innate 
to the Portuguese people.”

Under the myopic, out-of-touch Salazar – his own secretary of state Jorge 
Jardim reports the dictator called his Mozambican subjects “little black folk” 
– Castelo says “the Estado Novo produced and disseminated a nationalistic 
version of Freyre’s luso-tropicalism to negate that Portugal had 
non-self-governing territories under the Article 73 of the United Nations 
Charter. The Portuguese “overseas provinces” (the new designation for the 
colonies in the 1951 revision of the Portuguese Constitution) and the provinces 
in Europe formed a multicontinental and multiracial nation where everyone lived 
in harmony.”

In a distinct echo of the farce we see being enacted today, “in 1955, Adriano 
Moreira, at the time professor of the High Institute of Overseas Studies and 
Portuguese delegate to the Inter-African Conference on Social Sciences, 
considered that there was no need to teach racial tolerance at Portuguese 
schools as UNESCO had suggested, since there was no racial discrimination among 
the Portuguese people; instead, it could be of great interest to highlight 
“Portuguese antiracist tradition” in primary and secondary education in 
Portugal.”

These are the roots of Portugal’s bizarre denial of what everyone else can 
easily see: “notwithstanding the internal logic of the colonial system, based 
on racial inequality and exploitation, the state political and ideological 
apparatus, through the education system, media, propaganda and censorship 
conveyed a Luso-tropicalist message out of step with the political and social 
reality in the colonies and instilled in the Portuguese the idea that they were 
not nor had ever been racists. Everything that constituted prejudice or racial 
discrimination was referred as ‘deviation’ from the fraternal, plastic, 
tolerant and ecumenical ‘Portuguese tradition’.”

This is very much “through the looking glass” – as in Lewis Carroll’s fantasy 
wonderland – where we are enjoined to believe the opposite of the evidence of 
our own eyes, because it challenges someone else’s cherished falsehoods. Here, 
it is absolutely fascinating to note the presence of Otelo Saraiva de Carvalho 
– chief strategist of the Carnation Revolution that finally liberated Portugal 
in 1974 from the dictatorship which Nehru’s troops expelled from Goa over a 
decade earlier – at the heart of the racist poster decrying an imagined Goan 
“assault on [Portuguese] mental life”. Over the past 50 years, this great 
hero’s ancestral roots were never widely acknowledged, but here they have been 
made central to his identity, with an Indian flag attached to his name. It is 
an excellent indication of where the racist surge in Portugal is coming from: 
precisely the fascists who yearn for “the good old days” of the Estado Novo. 
Those seeking to combat them must realize it is inherently pointless to cling 
to identically Salazarist tropes claiming an entirely unfounded Portuguese 
exceptionalism about race. To do so is to lose the battle before it even begins,

Here is Castelo’s conclusion, which has my hearty endorsement from Goa, for 
whatever that is worth: “The illusion of Portuguese non-racism has prevented 
structural racism from being faced and combated in Portuguese society, and 
perpetuates racism and the fake imaginary that denies its existence. It is a 
vicious cycle that needs to be broken. How to put an end to it? Knowing the 
historical process of racism is a first step, but in parallel, implementing 
anti-racist policies in all areas of collective life, in the political, 
justice, police, and education systems. It is up to the state and the civil 
society to take up the challenge of breaking that self-assuring and immobile 
image and promoting racial equality in Portugal. It is also up to all citizens 
to embrace this task of radical social transformation in their daily lives.”



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