The issue of immigrating to UK on Portuguese is easy. Many are immigrating because tthere are not too many jobs in Goa. That's the main reason. Some could be going for the betterment of their children. However, its one blessing that Portugal has provided to its colonized people. Different perspectives of the Act. Some still maintain Portugal should have held a plebiscite or rather given control of the land into Goan hands. The case of Pondicherry is often cited. France did a magnanimous act by letting go of its colony. Would it be different for Goa is Portugal had done the same? Goans would be unable to rule within the India landscape. Goans lacked political expertise. Sushila Sawant Mendes is daughter of a nationalist, Adv Louis Mendes. From that perspective, her views reflect what the Bombay nationalists stood for. Whatever happened is now history. However, the Act was not so honourable to the people of the colonies. Pversess empire is just a hollow term.
Eugene Correia On Wed., Jul. 24, 2024, 7:05 a.m. Roland Francis, <[email protected]> wrote: > Albert, part of what you say with regard to getting unskilled, lower > paying jobs, is true of the first generation but not of the next. That > first wave living rough ensure their children no longer suffer from a lack > of education and therefore better lives. > > As for Hindus not emigrating using Portuguese passports, why should they? > They just benefit from the assets, the low lying fruit on the tree left by > the emigrating Christians. > > Roland. > > > On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 4:22 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Roland >> >> ........... *one or a group, I wonder if all the Goans who have made >> Portuguese passports and left en masse for Britain and Europe, continuing >> to do so till today, spare a thought for those who have made it possible >> for them to have changed their lives*. >> My take: >> The Portuguese passport is emptying Goa, with the majority of Catholics >> not skilled in London, where they are exploited. The ghost of the colonizer >> or Salazar continues to harm Goa. Few Hindus from Goa queue up outside the >> foreign consulate. The ghost of the Inquisition prevents them from going >> there. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Mensagem de Roland Francis <[email protected]> --------- >> Data: Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:03:45 -0400 >> De: Roland Francis <[email protected]> >> Assunto: Re: [GRN] DAY OF JOY >> Para: [email protected] >> >> Thank you for your usual erudition John. You say something which >> continues to make the subject more and more interesting to me. >> >> The next question that pops up is what made Salazar repeal the Act. Wiki >> gives credit (almost solely it seems) to Froilano de Melo. >> >> Quote >> The Act was repealed only in 1950, in part because of the contributions >> of Froilano de Mello <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Froilano_de_Mello>, >> a Goan <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goan_Catholic> Catholic doctor and >> an independent member of parliament >> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_of_Parliament> in Lisbon >> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisbon>.[1] >> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Colonial_Act#cite_note-Portuguese_Nationality_Law-1> >> He >> represented Goa in the Assembly of the Republic >> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_of_the_Republic_%28Portugal%29>. >> He fought for the rights of Portuguese Indians. De Mello was so successful >> that, from 1950, Goans regained their status and were treated in equal >> terms like other Portuguese citizens from the metropolis.[1] >> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Colonial_Act#cite_note-Portuguese_Nationality_Law-1> >> >> I don’t think a hardhead like Salazar would be swayed by the soft graces >> of a Goan intellectual. Without diminishing Dr De Melo’s role, he Salazar >> being an economist, there must have been a practical, monetary push that >> made him repeal it. >> >> Whoever it was, one or a group, I wonder if all the Goans who have made >> Portuguese passports and left en masse for Britain and Europe, continuing >> to do so till today, spare a thought for those who have made it possible >> for them to have changed their lives. >> >> Froilano de Melo is the uncle of Adelino Francisco de Melo to whom my >> maternal aunt Emilia Araujo (of Loutolim) was married. Almost every summer >> holiday I spent in Goa was at Benaulim in that ancestral house where I >> drank, dined and made merry under the penetrating, watchful eyes of a large >> portrait of Froilano de Melo, who by the way with his white goatee had the >> demeanour of the Count of Monte Cristo. I knew little of him then, other >> than that he was married to a Swiss woman whose pictures also hung in that >> hall. >> >> Roland. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 1:52 AM John de Figueiredo < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Roland is asking about the harm done to the Goans, not Africans. >>> While I am not an expert in Constitutional Law, this is my understanding: >>> >>> Following the trend initiated by Pombal and by Dom Pedro IV, the 1911 >>> Constitution envisioned progressive decentralization of the administration >>> of the overseas territories with the goal of they eventually becoming >>> self-governing entities. The Acto Colonial and the 1933 Constitution >>> reversed that trend and redefined those territories as “Império Colonial >>> Português”. So the Goans, all the sudden, were redefined as assimilated >>> (Lusified) colonial subjects. Which means that the people of Goa would >>> never become a self-governing entity. In essence, it established two >>> classes of citizens. This legislation could be invoked to justify all sorts >>> of discriminatory policies that had been abolished since the days of >>> Pombal. For example, individuals who wanted to join the military had to >>> have both parents born in Portugal. The sons of a Portuguese European, Ruy >>> da Cunha Menezes, a distinguished member of the Portuguese military, could >>> not join the armed forces because his wife was Brazilian. The family moved >>> to Brazil where they distinguished themselves in the Brazilian armed forces. >>> This is why I cannot understand how those individuals who believe that >>> Goa was a colony (whatever “colony” means) can logically also condemn the >>> Acto Colonial. It seems to me they should have applauded it instead of >>> condemning it. Unless, of course, they believe that only the Goans can say >>> that Goa was a colony, and not Europeans like Dr. Oliveira Salazar. >>> Menezes Bragança condemned the Acto Colonial because he believed that >>> Goa was an integral part of the Portuguese Nation and in many ways >>> different from the rest of India, and that the Goans were equal to those >>> born in Minho or Algarve, and that they should have the right to decide on >>> their future. In short, he believed in the doctrine of the 1911 >>> Constitution. >>> I already discussed this in greater detail during my conversation with >>> Dr. Cristiana Bastos. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 10, 2024, at 10:29 PM, 'Pedro Mascarenhas' via Goa-Research-Net < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Roland >>> >>> The Colonial Act, which will form part of the future Constitution of >>> 1933, defines all occupied territories as an Empire. Colonization was seen >>> as a divine plan for the nation and the civilizing work would be based, not >>> on education or religion, but on work. The Indigenous Statute was approved, >>> which racially, socially and culturally discriminated against natives and >>> gave them the conditions for acquiring citizenship. >>> >>> The fields become crops with a single and obligatory culture, as was the >>> case with cotton in Angola and Mozambique, with the black population forced >>> to cultivate it to the detriment of their own subsistence. Hunger, disease >>> and violence against the natives became widespread, which would later give >>> rise to the first legitimate revolts against the Portuguese State, as >>> happened in the north of Angola, in 1961, with the peasants of Baixa do >>> Cassange. >>> >>> >>> Video. >>> >>> >>> https://ensina.rtp.pt/artigo/o-imperio-de-salazar/ >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, July 9, 2024 at 12:53:28 PM GMT+1, Roland Francis < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> It would be useful to refresh our memories if you could give us an idea >>> of the harm done to Goans and their aspirations with the Acto Colonial. >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> Roland >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 10:08 PM John de Figueiredo < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> To Roland: >>> Forgot to tell you that the Declaration was not initiated by the >>> Government Council. Dr. Oliveira Salazar had asked all Government Councils >>> of the overseas territories for their opinions on the Acto Colonial. The >>> Declaration was a response to that request. It is a legal document. It >>> speaks highly for Menezes Bragança that he was able to contain his >>> indignation at the Acto Colonial and draft a relatively mild criticism with >>> a relatively modest request for greater autonomy. Although the Declaration >>> was a voice in the desert, the fact that it exists in the annals of our >>> history is a big deal, and in my opinion, the greatest deal in the history >>> of Goa. >>> John M. de Figueiredo >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 7, 2024, at 1:51 PM, Roland Francis < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Thank you for that interesting addendum. I now realize the importance of >>> that Declaration document. >>> Sometimes the demand for self-respect can be more powerful than that of >>> any Act that proscribes it. >>> >>> >>> Roland Francis >>> 416-453-3371 >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 6, 2024 at 11:56 PM John de Figueiredo < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Roland, >>> A small correction. The document mentioned in my article was not a >>> letter. It was a declaration signed by the four democratically elected >>> members of the Government Council. This declaration was approved >>> unanimously by the Government Council in a session that took place on July >>> 4, 1930, chaired by Governor Joao Carlos Craveiro Lopes. The document did >>> not just reject the Acto Colonial. It asserted that we, Goans, do not give >>> up our fundamental human right of self-determination. After he returned to >>> Portugal, Governor Craveiro Lopes (father of future President of the >>> Portuguese Republic Francisco Higinio Craveiro Lopes) publicly condemned >>> the Acto Colonial, risking being disciplined by the military and sent to >>> jail. (To my knowledge, this never happened.) >>> John M. de Figueiredo >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 6, 2024, at 9:33 AM, Roland Francis < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Historically the letter of protest would have taken much courage and >>> caused repercussion to its signatories, but are you sure it should have >>> been a Day of Joy for Goans? >>> It made no dent in Salazar’s thinking (although that was Salazar’s >>> fault, not theirs) not was it responsible for the ultimate repeal of that >>> Act, so what is it that we should be celebrating. >>> >>> Roland Francis >>> 416-453-3371 >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 8:03 AM JOHN DE FIGUEIREDO < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Attached is an article that may be of interest. >>> >>> John M. de Figueiredo >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to 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