I have not kept up with Karachi Goans. So, I am not able to respond with much information. I hope you get enough information for your research. All the best. William Robert
On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 2:10 AM Jules Fausto Mendonca de Sa < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Richelle, > > Hope that you are well! > > I do recall speaking to you on the subject a couple of years ago as well > as to some students of yours at the Goa Library. > > During my recent visit I did have a conversation with one of the MLAs from > Goa and have recently sent him a write up including parts of information > that you are looking for. > > I am free to have a chat with you and post that can share the information. > I might also be able to give you further answers that you seek. I can > further confirm to you that until early 1970s approx.60% of the Goans were > Portuguese nationals who were forced to naturalise or risk being ejected > from the country. > > Please do share your contacts details via my email > [email protected]. > > Kind regards > > Fausto > > > > Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> > > ------------------------------ > *From:* [email protected] < > [email protected]> on behalf of Rochelle Fernandes < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* 03 November 2024 06:45 > *To:* [email protected] <[email protected] > > > *Subject:* Re: [GRN] Partition of India > > Thank you, William, Helga, Fredrick and Eugene. > > I have spoken to Dr. Celsa as well as Fausto Jules and have read Menin’s > extremely informative book. > > I apologise for not providing much context. Goa was, as is known, a > Portuguese colony when the Partition took place. At this point, were Goans > in Karachi affected by the Partition? This is one question I’m dealing with > that William's research has answered. Then, after Goa’s liberation in 1961 > and subsequent annexation/merging by/with India, were Karachi Goans > affected? We know about the Enemy Property Act of 1968. After watching > Dinesh Bhosle’s film *Enemy? *(2015), I can’t help but wonder whether > Goans affected by the Act are still around. I’m sure their families are. > But how do I find them? I came across an interesting LAQ on the internet > but that's not very helpful in locating victims/survivors. Nonetheless, > attaching it to this email. A third question I am grappling with is how the > Enemy Property Act of 1968 and the Evacuee Property Act, 1950, intersect. > > @William: This is exactly what I'm looking for. Would you have any more > information you could share? Perhaps some published research I could read? > Please let me know. > > @Helga thank you! Memory Studies and Goan Cultural Studies are my areas of > interest. I am always looking to represent and re-present marginalised > voices concerning Goa. In fact, I mentored my Third Year B.A. students > while they worked on how Goans were affected by the Partition. At the time, > this was an area of interest that I could not pursue as I was working on my > PhD. So I introduced my students to the topic and they were very > interested. However, by virtue of being third year students, I could push > them only so far. But they did a fabulous job and I'm hoping they will > publish their work at some point. > > I'm hoping my research leads somewhere and will see the light of day. Once > again, thank you for your inputs. > > Regards > Rochelle > > On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 at 10:55 AM, Eugene Correia <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I have Menin's book, Goans of Pakistan. By first generation means Goans > who remained in Pakistan during Partition? > > Eugene > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2024, 1:57 p.m. Frederick Noronha < > [email protected]> wrote: > > The expat Colva-linked Karachi writer Menin Rodrigues has written a book > length work describing the Goans of Karachi. It's called Footprints on the > Sands of Time. > When you say "affected by the Partition", I'm not sure i understood right, > but the Goans were affected in different ways because their migration to > Karachi was neither political or religion based, but mostly pre-1947 (or > surely pre-1961) and for purely economic reasons. Those who decided to opt > out after Partition mostly moved West. A few returned to Goa. > Many are still affected by blocks to get visas sometimes even to just > visit Goa (except in group 'pilgrimages'). Recently one Goan got > citizenship under the changes CAA rules and much was made of it. > Our senior group member Dr Celsa Pinto, former Director of Education, > Government of Goa, is Karachi born, and she could perhaps give insights > into how this sometime was treated here. > FN > > On Sat, 2 Nov, 2024, 11:16 pm Helga Do Rosario Gomes, < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Could Fausto Jules, the genealogist also help? His family has deep roots > in the Goan Karachi community. > And Rochelle, you do choose some interesting topics of research. > Best, > Helga > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 2, 2024, at 12:26, William Robert Da Silva <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Goans settled in Karachi before Partition and independence were affected. > I had contact with five families about thirty years ago. At present, I do > not have any hint about their whereabouts. They had narrated to me all > about their plight during Partition. I was working on Goa and the spread of > Konkani in those decades. > You could inquire around for such Goans settled in Karachi and elsewhere > there and their dispersed families after Partition. > William Robert Da Silva > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2024 at 8:28 AM Rochelle Fernandes < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Good day! > > I’m working on a project concerning the Partition of India with a focus on > Goa. Do you know anyone of Goan origin who has been affected by the > Partition? 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