Thank you very much for your inputs Cliff and Fausto. Regards Rochelle
On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 at 5:22 PM, William Robert Da Silva <[email protected]> wrote: > I have not kept up with Karachi Goans. So, I am not able to respond with > much information. I hope you get enough information for your research. All > the best. > William Robert > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 2:10 AM Jules Fausto Mendonca de Sa < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Richelle, >> >> Hope that you are well! >> >> I do recall speaking to you on the subject a couple of years ago as well >> as to some students of yours at the Goa Library. >> >> During my recent visit I did have a conversation with one of the MLAs >> from Goa and have recently sent him a write up including parts of >> information that you are looking for. >> >> I am free to have a chat with you and post that can share the >> information. I might also be able to give you further answers that you >> seek. I can further confirm to you that until early 1970s approx.60% of the >> Goans were Portuguese nationals who were forced to naturalise or risk being >> ejected from the country. >> >> Please do share your contacts details via my email >> [email protected]. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Fausto >> >> >> >> Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* [email protected] < >> [email protected]> on behalf of Rochelle Fernandes < >> [email protected]> >> *Sent:* 03 November 2024 06:45 >> *To:* [email protected] < >> [email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [GRN] Partition of India >> >> Thank you, William, Helga, Fredrick and Eugene. >> >> I have spoken to Dr. Celsa as well as Fausto Jules and have read Menin’s >> extremely informative book. >> >> I apologise for not providing much context. Goa was, as is known, a >> Portuguese colony when the Partition took place. At this point, were Goans >> in Karachi affected by the Partition? This is one question I’m dealing with >> that William's research has answered. Then, after Goa’s liberation in 1961 >> and subsequent annexation/merging by/with India, were Karachi Goans >> affected? We know about the Enemy Property Act of 1968. After watching >> Dinesh Bhosle’s film *Enemy? *(2015), I can’t help but wonder whether >> Goans affected by the Act are still around. I’m sure their families are. >> But how do I find them? I came across an interesting LAQ on the internet >> but that's not very helpful in locating victims/survivors. Nonetheless, >> attaching it to this email. A third question I am grappling with is how the >> Enemy Property Act of 1968 and the Evacuee Property Act, 1950, intersect. >> >> @William: This is exactly what I'm looking for. Would you have any more >> information you could share? Perhaps some published research I could read? >> Please let me know. >> >> @Helga thank you! Memory Studies and Goan Cultural Studies are my areas >> of interest. I am always looking to represent and re-present marginalised >> voices concerning Goa. In fact, I mentored my Third Year B.A. students >> while they worked on how Goans were affected by the Partition. At the time, >> this was an area of interest that I could not pursue as I was working on my >> PhD. So I introduced my students to the topic and they were very >> interested. However, by virtue of being third year students, I could push >> them only so far. But they did a fabulous job and I'm hoping they will >> publish their work at some point. >> >> I'm hoping my research leads somewhere and will see the light of day. >> Once again, thank you for your inputs. >> >> Regards >> Rochelle >> >> On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 at 10:55 AM, Eugene Correia <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I have Menin's book, Goans of Pakistan. By first generation means Goans >> who remained in Pakistan during Partition? >> >> Eugene >> >> On Sat, Nov 2, 2024, 1:57 p.m. Frederick Noronha < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> The expat Colva-linked Karachi writer Menin Rodrigues has written a book >> length work describing the Goans of Karachi. It's called Footprints on the >> Sands of Time. >> When you say "affected by the Partition", I'm not sure i understood >> right, but the Goans were affected in different ways because their >> migration to Karachi was neither political or religion based, but mostly >> pre-1947 (or surely pre-1961) and for purely economic reasons. Those who >> decided to opt out after Partition mostly moved West. A few returned to >> Goa. >> Many are still affected by blocks to get visas sometimes even to just >> visit Goa (except in group 'pilgrimages'). Recently one Goan got >> citizenship under the changes CAA rules and much was made of it. >> Our senior group member Dr Celsa Pinto, former Director of Education, >> Government of Goa, is Karachi born, and she could perhaps give insights >> into how this sometime was treated here. >> FN >> >> On Sat, 2 Nov, 2024, 11:16 pm Helga Do Rosario Gomes, < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Could Fausto Jules, the genealogist also help? His family has deep roots >> in the Goan Karachi community. >> And Rochelle, you do choose some interesting topics of research. >> Best, >> Helga >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 2, 2024, at 12:26, William Robert Da Silva <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> Goans settled in Karachi before Partition and independence were affected. >> I had contact with five families about thirty years ago. At present, I do >> not have any hint about their whereabouts. They had narrated to me all >> about their plight during Partition. I was working on Goa and the spread of >> Konkani in those decades. >> You could inquire around for such Goans settled in Karachi and elsewhere >> there and their dispersed families after Partition. >> William Robert Da Silva >> >> On Sat, Nov 2, 2024 at 8:28 AM Rochelle Fernandes < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Good day! >> >> I’m working on a project concerning the Partition of India with a focus >> on Goa. Do you know anyone of Goan origin who has been affected by the >> Partition? 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