When you write about velha Goa and Goa velha, you refer to Portuguese language. It could not have been there before Estado da India when they arrived there. The names before the Portuguese needs to be reconstructed with Konkanni, Kannada, Marathi as part of the language group that operated there. Goapuri, Gomant, Gomantak etc. needs to be located in literature, written texts, because we cannot recover spoken words about these issues. There is so much more to be critical about in order to bring about a discourse and an understanding. Thank you, William Robert Da Silva
On Thu, May 21, 2026 at 4:12 PM Joao Paulo Cota <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear William, do you have any plans on publishing / recording these songs? > They are priceless. > ------------------------------ > *From:* [email protected] < > [email protected]> on behalf of William Robert Da Silva < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* 12 May 2026 09:46 > *To:* [email protected] <[email protected] > > > *Subject:* Re: [GRN] Goa's Past... Beyond Politics and Propaganda (Jason > Pinto SDB) > > My point is Goy, Goa are capital cities of rulers, not the land and state > or kingdom. > > On Sat, May 9, 2026 at 2:27 AM William Robert Da Silva <[email protected]> > wrote: > > There is a lot of wishful reading and re-search on Goa, Konkann and > Konkanni. Goa, which is a regional state now within the Indian Union > (states and union territories), was always a city, capital city of rulers. > The Kadamba were 'ruling' *Goa * is wrong. Portuguese did not rule '*Goa*.' > They called it Estado da India. What did Adil Shah rule? Not *Goa*. Goa, > Govapuri etc. were capital cities of their rulers. Go*y* was always a > city, capital city. There were three: vhoddlem, adlem and novem (Pannaji). > Good investigation alone helps in determining the past. People's oral songs > speak of vhoddlem Go*y.* I have collected at least fifteen such songs > from elders in Goa state today and in Canara. There is more. > W R da Silva > > > On Thu, May 7, 2026 at 4:30 AM John de Figueiredo <[email protected]> > wrote: > > That is all well-known. My point is that Goa Velha (Govapuri) was not the > capital of Yusuf Adil Shah as Fr. Jason Pinto states. The capital of Yusuf > Adil Shah was Velha Goa. > John M. de Figueiredo > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 6, 2026, at 6:37 PM, MD <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Goa Kadamba Chakravarti Jayakesi I (ruled A.D.1050-1080) was the younger > son of Shastha Deva II. He was one of the prominent kings of the Goa > Kadambas. He made Govapuri (modern Goa Velha), his capital in A.D.1052. It > is situated on the north bank of River Zuari in Tiswadi taluka of Goa. > > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 7:52 PM John de Figueiredo < > [email protected]> wrote: > > This author states that Goa Velha (Govapuri) was the capital of Yusuf Adil > Shah. This is not correct. The capital of Yusuf Adil Shah was Velha Goa, > not Goa Velha (Govapuri). > John M. de Figueiredo > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 30, 2026, at 3:52 AM, Frederick Noronha < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > *Goa’s Past Beyond Politics and Propaganda* > *..... exploring Goa's complex history from different aspects* > There is an increasing tendency to paint history with a single brush, > especially as elections approach. This is much evident in the recent > incidents in Goa and elsewhere. It raises questions about the happenings in > Medieval Goa, during the Portuguese rule (1510–1961). But can such a vast > subject be explained simplistically? Certainly not. Such arguments often > assume that pan-India once followed one religion, and other religions came > only with invaders or colonisers. Indian history has always been more > diverse and interconnected than what modern political slogans suggest. 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