I have an interest in doing it. There is also a ghumott song on the same theme. With vhoddlem Goy as the centre of power of the prince: Durut rai.
On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 3:02 PM William Robert Da Silva <[email protected]> wrote: > When you write about velha Goa and Goa velha, you refer to Portuguese > language. It could not have been there before Estado da India when they > arrived there. The names before the Portuguese needs to be reconstructed > with Konkanni, Kannada, Marathi as part of the language group that operated > there. Goapuri, Gomant, Gomantak etc. needs to be located in literature, > written texts, because we cannot recover spoken words about these issues. > There is so much more to be critical about in order to bring about a > discourse and an understanding. > Thank you, > William Robert Da Silva > > On Thu, May 21, 2026 at 4:12 PM Joao Paulo Cota <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Dear William, do you have any plans on publishing / recording these songs? >> They are priceless. >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* [email protected] < >> [email protected]> on behalf of William Robert Da Silva < >> [email protected]> >> *Sent:* 12 May 2026 09:46 >> *To:* [email protected] < >> [email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [GRN] Goa's Past... Beyond Politics and Propaganda (Jason >> Pinto SDB) >> >> My point is Goy, Goa are capital cities of rulers, not the land and state >> or kingdom. >> >> On Sat, May 9, 2026 at 2:27 AM William Robert Da Silva < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> There is a lot of wishful reading and re-search on Goa, Konkann and >> Konkanni. Goa, which is a regional state now within the Indian Union >> (states and union territories), was always a city, capital city of rulers. >> The Kadamba were 'ruling' *Goa * is wrong. Portuguese did not rule '*Goa*.' >> They called it Estado da India. What did Adil Shah rule? Not *Goa*. >> Goa, Govapuri etc. were capital cities of their rulers. Go*y* was always >> a city, capital city. There were three: vhoddlem, adlem and novem >> (Pannaji). Good investigation alone helps in determining the past. People's >> oral songs speak of vhoddlem Go*y.* I have collected at least fifteen >> such songs from elders in Goa state today and in Canara. There is more. >> W R da Silva >> >> >> On Thu, May 7, 2026 at 4:30 AM John de Figueiredo < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> That is all well-known. My point is that Goa Velha (Govapuri) was not the >> capital of Yusuf Adil Shah as Fr. Jason Pinto states. The capital of Yusuf >> Adil Shah was Velha Goa. >> John M. de Figueiredo >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 6, 2026, at 6:37 PM, MD <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Goa Kadamba Chakravarti Jayakesi I (ruled A.D.1050-1080) was the younger >> son of Shastha Deva II. He was one of the prominent kings of the Goa >> Kadambas. He made Govapuri (modern Goa Velha), his capital in A.D.1052. It >> is situated on the north bank of River Zuari in Tiswadi taluka of Goa. >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 7:52 PM John de Figueiredo < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> This author states that Goa Velha (Govapuri) was the capital of Yusuf >> Adil Shah. This is not correct. The capital of Yusuf Adil Shah was Velha >> Goa, not Goa Velha (Govapuri). >> John M. de Figueiredo >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 30, 2026, at 3:52 AM, Frederick Noronha < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> *Goa’s Past Beyond Politics and Propaganda* >> *..... exploring Goa's complex history from different aspects* >> There is an increasing tendency to paint history with a single brush, >> especially as elections approach. This is much evident in the recent >> incidents in Goa and elsewhere. It raises questions about the happenings in >> Medieval Goa, during the Portuguese rule (1510–1961). But can such a vast >> subject be explained simplistically? Certainly not. Such arguments often >> assume that pan-India once followed one religion, and other religions came >> only with invaders or colonisers. Indian history has always been more >> diverse and interconnected than what modern political slogans suggest. 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