Hi Garrett,

It depends on the funding body - I'm not clear which specific funding council 
you have in mind.  Those we already have agreements with are described here: 
http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/authorsview.authors/fundingbodyagreements

With kind wishes,

Alicia

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Garret McMahon
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:27 AM
To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Subject: [GOAL] Re: Why should publishers agree to Green OA?

Alicia,

This is the first time I've heard mention of Elsevier's Green OA policy 
predicated on an institutional mandate. Up to now, IR deposit of the author's 
peer-reviewed accepted draft on acceptance for publication has been central to 
funding council policies on OA. Are you saying that deposit on that basis alone 
contravenes Elsevier's position in the absence of an institutional OA policy?

Regards,

Garret McMahon
Queen's University Belfast


On 20 June 2012 08:53, Wise, Alicia (ELS-OXF) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi all,

Just a quick point of clarification.... Elsevier doesn't forbid posting if 
there is a mandate.  We ask for an agreement with the institution that has the 
mandate, and there is no cost for these agreements.  The purpose of these 
agreements is to work out a win-win solution to find a way for the underlying 
journals in which academics choose to publish to be sustainable even if there 
are high posting rates.

With kind wishes,

Alicia

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Peter Murray-Rust
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 7:23 PM
To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Subject: [GOAL] Why should publishers agree to Green OA?


I have some simple questions about Green OA. I don't know the answers.

* is there any *contractual* relationship between a Green-publisher and any 
legal body? Or is Green simply a permission granted unilaterally by publishers 
when they feel like it, and withdrawable when they don't.
* if Green starts impacting on publishers' revenues (and I understand this is 
part of the Green strategy - when we have 100% Green then publishers will have 
to change) what stops them simply withdrawing the permission? Or rationing it? 
Or any other anti-Green measure
* Do publishers receive any funding from anywhere for allowing Green? Green is 
extra work for them - why should they increase the amount they do?
* Is there any body which regularly "negotiates" with publishers such as ACS, 
who categorically forbid Green for now and for ever.

Various publishers seem to indicate that they will allow Green as long as it's 
a relatively small percentage. But, as Stevan has noted, if your institution 
mandates Green, then Elsevier forbids it. So I cannot see why, if Green were to 
reach - say - 50%, the publishers wouldn't simply ration it and prevent 100%.


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University of Cambridge
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