ELSEVIER FUNDING BODY AGREEMENTS & POLICIES says in its second paragraph:

"The agreements and policies are intended to support the needs of Elsevier authors, editors and society publishing partners, and to protect the quality and integrity of the peer-review process"

Does it mean that the $3,000 serve to pay the insurance of the "quality and integrity of peer review? what if others do not pay? quality and integrity is not protected? of course not, the quality and integrity is given by authors, reviewers and scientific editors, who, generally belong to academic and research institutions.

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According with the El 20/06/2012 11:43, Wise, Alicia (ELS-OXF) escribió:

Hi Garrett,

It depends on the funding body -- I'm not clear which specific funding council you have in mind. Those we already have agreements with are described here: http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/authorsview.authors/fundingbodyagreements

With kind wishes,

Alicia//

*From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Garret McMahon
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:27 AM
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*Subject:* [GOAL] Re: Why should publishers agree to Green OA?

Alicia,

This is the first time I've heard mention of Elsevier's Green OA policy predicated on an institutional mandate. Up to now, IR deposit of the author's peer-reviewed accepted draft on acceptance for publication has been central to funding council policies on OA. Are you saying that deposit on that basis alone contravenes Elsevier's position in the absence of an institutional OA policy?

Regards,

Garret McMahon

Queen's University Belfast

On 20 June 2012 08:53, Wise, Alicia (ELS-OXF) <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi all,

Just a quick point of clarification.... Elsevier doesn't forbid posting if there is a mandate. We ask for an agreement with the institution that has the mandate, and there is no cost for these agreements. The purpose of these agreements is to work out a win-win solution to find a way for the underlying journals in which academics choose to publish to be sustainable even if there are high posting rates.

With kind wishes,

Alicia

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*Subject:* [GOAL] Why should publishers agree to Green OA?

I have some simple questions about Green OA. I don't know the answers.


* is there any *contractual* relationship between a Green-publisher and any legal body? Or is Green simply a permission granted unilaterally by publishers when they feel like it, and withdrawable when they don't. * if Green starts impacting on publishers' revenues (and I understand this is part of the Green strategy - when we have 100% Green then publishers will have to change) what stops them simply withdrawing the permission? Or rationing it? Or any other anti-Green measure * Do publishers receive any funding from anywhere for allowing Green? Green is extra work for them - why should they increase the amount they do? * Is there any body which regularly "negotiates" with publishers such as ACS, who categorically forbid Green for now and for ever.

Various publishers seem to indicate that they will allow Green as long as it's a relatively small percentage. But, as Stevan has noted, if your institution mandates Green, then Elsevier forbids it. So I cannot see why, if Green were to reach - say - 50%, the publishers wouldn't simply ration it and prevent 100%.


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