Andras,
Whether Open Access relates to an individual article or to a whole journal
depends on whether the journal calls itself an OA journal or whether the OA
label is just attached to a few individual articles. Among the best examples we
have are PLoS and BMC journals, all the articles in which are covered by a CC-BY
licence, meaning they are full, BOAI-compliant Open Access, and you can do
pretty much anything with them, including redistribute the whole journal, and
converting articles into different formats, as long as you properly acknowledge
the original author(s) whenever possible.
Depending on the reason why you text-mine, of course, the value of text-mining
increases, on the whole, with the size of the body of literature that you can
text-mine. A whole journal is better than a single article, but a large amount
of articles from different journals on the same topic is better still.
The BOAI definition of Open Access allows text-mining. The appropriate licence
covering BOAI-compliant Open Access is CC-BY.
Jan
On 9 May 2012, at 12:34, Andras Holl wrote:
Dear All,
The thing whether Open Access relates to an individual article
or a whole journal is not clear. Does libre OA mean that anyone
is free to redistribute the whole journal, or only one, a few
article?
Text mining rights are meaningful only for the whole journal.
My opinion that they should be granted - the problem I have
is not with the rights. It is with the practice. The OA journal
I manage has every article available in several formats - LaTeX, PS.
PDF, HTML -
some of these are generated on-the-fly, some static. Indiscriminate
harvesting is a prolem for me. What I would like to have is
some method, which is a mix of robots.txt and htaccess,
maybe with a touch of legal content about the scope of
possible use of harvested content.
So, in my opinion, the real worls situation is even more complex
than either gratis or libre. There are many flavors of OA, and
I do not think that sticking to the bOAI definition would do much
good.
Andras Holl
On Wed, 9 May 2012 06:37:55 -0400, Stevan Harnad wrote
> ** Cross-Posted **
>
> On 2012-05-09, at 4:12 AM, Jan Velterop wrote:
> I would favour doing away with both the terms 'libre
OA' and 'gratis OA'.
> Open Access suffices. It's the 'open' that says it
all. Especially if it is made
> clear that OA means BOAI-compliant OA in the context
of scholarly
> research literature.
>
> I don't doubt that Jan would like to do away with the terms libre
and gratis OA.Â
> He has been arguing all along that free online access is not open
access,
> ever since 2003 on the American Scientist Open Access Forum:
>
>
http://users.ecs.soton.ac.uk/harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/subject.html#msg6478
>
> This would mean that my "subversive proposal" of 1994 was not
really aÂ
> proposal for open access  and that the existing open access
mandatesÂ
> and policies of funders and institutions worldwide are not really
open accessÂ
> mandates or policies.
> http://roarmap.eprints.org/
>
> It is in large part for this reason that in 2008 Peter Suber and I
proposedÂ
> the terms "gratis" and "libre" open access to ensure that the term
> "open access" retained its meaning, and to make explicit the twoÂ
> distinct conditions involved: free online access (gratis OA) and
> certain re-use rights (libre OA):
>
> http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/2008/04/strong-and-weak-oa.html
>
> For Peter Murray-Rust's crusade for journal article text-mining
rights,
> apart from reiterating my full agreement that these are highly
important
> and highly desirable and even urgent in certain fields, I would
like
> to note that -- as PM-R has stated -- neither gratis OA nor libre
OA
> is necessary for the kinds of text-mining rights he is seeking.
They
> can be had via a special licensing agreement from the publisher.
>
> There is no ambiguity there: The text-mining rights can be granted
> even if the articles themselves are not made openly accessible,
> free for all.Â
>
> And, as Richard Poynder has just pointed out, publishers are
> quite aware of (perhaps even relieved with) this option, withÂ
> Elsevier lately launching an experiment in it:
>
> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/pipermail/goal/2012-May/000433.html
>
> This makes it clear that the text-mining rights PM-R seeks can be
> had without either sort of OA, gratis or libre...
>
> Let us hope the quest for Open Access itself is not derailed in
this
> direction.
>
> Stevan Harnad
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