[GOAL] Re: [BOAI] Meaning of Open Access

Wed, 9 May 2012 16:11:14 +0100 

Jeffrey,
All research articles in BMC journals are OA, BOAI-compliant CC-BY. A few
journals (six of them, to 
beprecise, http://arthritis-research.com/ , http://breast-cancer-research.com/, h
ttp://ccforum.com/ ,http://genomebiology.com/ , http://genomemedicine.com/ , 
and http://stemcellres.com/ ) contain non-research articles, 
e.g. commissioned
Reviews, Commentaries, Meeting reports, Viewpoints, and those articles – only
those – are subject to a subscription charge.
Jan


On 9 May 2012, at 15:10, Beall, Jeffrey wrote:

      Jan:
 
Not all articles in the Biomed Central journals are open access; some
require a subscription.
 
An example is BMC's Genome
Biology <http://genomebiology.com/content/13/4 > which is a hybrid journal
with both toll access and open access articles.  
 
 
Jeffrey Beall, Metadata Librarian / Assistant Professor
Auraria Library
University of Colorado Denver
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Denver, Colo.  80204 USA
(303) 556-5936
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Jan Velterop
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 6:24 AM
To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [GOAL] Re: [BOAI] Meaning of Open Access
 
Andras,
 
Whether Open Access relates to an individual article or to a whole journal
depends on whether the journal calls itself an OA journal or whether the
OA label is just attached to a few individual articles. Among the best
examples we have are PLoS and BMC journals, all the articles in which are
covered by a CC-BY licence, meaning they are full, BOAI-compliant Open
Access, and you can do pretty much anything with them, including
redistribute the whole journal, and converting articles into different
formats, as long as you properly acknowledge the original author(s)
whenever possible.
 
Depending on the reason why you text-mine, of course, the value of
text-mining increases, on the whole, with the size of the body of
literature that you can text-mine. A whole journal is better than a single
article, but a large amount of articles from different journals on the
same topic is better still.
 
The BOAI definition of Open Access allows text-mining. The appropriate
licence covering BOAI-compliant Open Access is CC-BY.
 
Jan
 
 
On 9 May 2012, at 12:34, Andras Holl wrote:


Dear All, 

The thing whether Open Access relates to an individual article 
or a whole journal is not clear. Does libre OA mean that anyone 
is free to redistribute the whole journal, or only one, a few article? 
Text mining rights are meaningful only for the whole journal. 
My opinion that they should be granted - the problem I have 
is not with the rights. It is with the practice. The OA journal 
I manage has every article available in several formats - LaTeX, PS. PDF,
HTML - 
some of these are generated on-the-fly, some static. Indiscriminate 
harvesting is a prolem for me. What I would like to have is 
some method, which is a mix of robots.txt and htaccess, 
maybe with a touch of legal content about the scope of 
possible use of harvested content. 

So, in my opinion, the real worls situation is even more complex 
than either gratis or libre. There are many flavors of OA, and 
I do not think that sticking to the bOAI definition would do much good. 

Andras Holl 

On Wed, 9 May 2012 06:37:55 -0400, Stevan Harnad wrote 
> ** Cross-Posted ** 
> 
> On 2012-05-09, at 4:12 AM, Jan Velterop wrote: 


> I would favour doing away with both the terms 'libre OA' and 'gratis
OA'.

      > Open Access suffices. It's the 'open' that says it all.
      Especially if it is made


      > clear that OA means BOAI-compliant OA in the context of
      scholarly


      > research literature.


> 
> I don't doubt that Jan would like to do away with the terms libre and
gratis OA.  
> He has been arguing all along that free online access is not open
access, 
> ever since 2003 on the American Scientist Open Access Forum: 
> 
> http://users.ecs.soton.ac.uk/harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/subject.html#msg6478 
> 
> This would mean that my "subversive proposal" of 1994 was not really a  
> proposal for open access  and that the existing open access mandates  
> and policies of funders and institutions worldwide are not really open
access  
> mandates or policies. 
> http://roarmap.eprints.org/ 
> 
> It is in large part for this reason that in 2008 Peter Suber and I
proposed  
> the terms "gratis" and "libre" open access to ensure that the term 
> "open access" retained its meaning, and to make explicit the two  
> distinct conditions involved: free online access (gratis OA) and 
> certain re-use rights (libre OA): 
> 
> http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/2008/04/strong-and-weak-oa.html 
> 
> For Peter Murray-Rust's crusade for journal article text-mining rights, 
> apart from reiterating my full agreement that these are highly
important 
> and highly desirable and even urgent in certain fields, I would like 
> to note that -- as PM-R has stated -- neither gratis OA nor libre OA 
> is necessary for the kinds of text-mining rights he is seeking. They 
> can be had via a special licensing agreement from the publisher. 
> 
> There is no ambiguity there: The text-mining rights can be granted 
> even if the articles themselves are not made openly accessible, 
> free for all.  
> 
> And, as Richard Poynder has just pointed out, publishers are 
> quite aware of (perhaps even relieved with) this option, with  
> Elsevier lately launching an experiment in it: 
> 
> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/pipermail/goal/2012-May/000433.html 
> 
> This makes it clear that the text-mining rights PM-R seeks can be 
> had without either sort of OA, gratis or libre... 
> 
> Let us hope the quest for Open Access itself is not derailed in this 
> direction. 
> 
> Stevan Harnad 


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