On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Jan Velterop <[email protected]> wrote:
What I don't understand, Steve, is your apparent hostility to OA
articles in hybrid journals. Whence this hostility? Why 'gold-only'
journals? Why not 'gold-only' publishers? As long as the OA articles
in question are CC-BY, then what's the problem?
There are several practical problems with hybrid OA. These are all down to the
publisher and could be rectified if they wished.
* labelling. It is extremely difficult to determine whether something is
hybrid OA. Many publishers don't label the OA articles differently from the
toll-access. Those that do call them tings like "Free Access", "Author
Choice", which are operationally useless. Sometimes it's stamped on the
table of contents and not the paper, sometimes the otehr way round, etc.
* licences. Many hybrid articles have no licences. Almost all that do have
specifically added CC-NC. This is not BOAI-compliant
* The readers' rights are often impossible to determine, even by very
intelligent and perceptive humans.
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Discoverability? Well, CC-BY articles, including those published in hybrid
journals, can be deposited in institutional archives without the slightest
hesitation (remember, gold *includes* green), if that helps. In fact, if
the reasoning is that all of an institute's output should be in that
institute's repository, all gold articles should be deposited in any event
(and the advantage is even that any FUD has no bearing on gold CC-BY
articles).
* Firstly, not all authors HAVE institutions. Pharma companies? Charities?
etc.
* Even if it's in an IR it's almost undiscoverable unless you are looking for
a specific article by someone-you-know-worked/works there.
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So if I have an article by Foo (@bar) and Plugh (@XYYZY) how do I know where to
look (@foo) or @XYZZY and what are my chances of success?
Can anyone answer questions like:
* find me all hybrid deposited articles in Repo XYZZY - not a chance
* find me all hybrid articles in UK/PMC - not a chance
* find me all chemistry hybrid articles
Until we build 21st C search and index engines then all repository-based OA is
rooted in the 20th Century
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In the Bethesda Statement on Open Access
(http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/bethesda.htm#definition) a note was
included saying that "Open access is a property of individual works, not
necessarily journals or publishers." That seems to me an entirely logical
and reasonable stipulation.
I agree completely. And it is appallingly supported by both publishers and
Institutional Repositories (many of which do not label anything or blanket-stamp
everything as non-resuable (like Cambridge).
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P.
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Peter Murray-Rust
Reader in Molecular Informatics
Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
University of Cambridge
CB2 1EW, UK
+44-1223-763069
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