On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Graham Triggs <[email protected]>wrote:
> On 18 December 2013 06:41, Peter Murray-Rust > I agree with you about the other problems about funders and OA subset. > However, let's just step back a minute and think about the bigger picture. > > An -NC licence does not prevent any scholarly use of the content, which by > definition, would be non-commercial. It only covers commercial interests, > and purchasing those rights would come from private funds. > This is a common misconception. Scholarly is frequently commercial. Universities charge fees - a commercial transaction. Authors pay publishers - a commercial transaction. > If an -NC licence allowed the authors (funders) to pay a lower APC, with > the balance expected to be made up from commercial sales to private funds, > then this would reduce the burden of publishing on the public purse, at no > harm to scholarly use. > > Everyone has amateur opinions on what NC allows. What matters is the law - and we have seen publishers exercising the law. The best estimate of the LAW that I have seen is: http://www.pensoft.net/journals/zookeys/article/2189/ ZooKeys 150: 127–149, doi: 10.3897/zookeys.150.2189 Creative Commons licenses and the non-commercial condition: Implications for the re-use of biodiversity information Gregor Hagedorn 1, Daniel Mietchen 2, Robert A. Morris 3, Donat Agosti 4, Lyubomir Penev 5, Walter G. Berendsohn 6, Donald Hobern 7 This makes it clear that the law almost certainly prevents re-use in teaching, content-mining , publishing and much other "scholarly" activity. NC has no beneficial spinoffs to scholarship and has serious drawbacks. Offering it for a lower cost, without explaining the implications, is IMO unacceptable. > Arguably, that could be considered a good thing. Although more likely it > would be seen that the public expenditure as an investment to allow > commercial use to drive economic growth outweighs the small cost difference. > a nice idea but fallacious as the opportunity cost is large. > > G > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal > > -- Peter Murray-Rust Reader in Molecular Informatics Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry University of Cambridge CB2 1EW, UK +44-1223-763069
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