Thank you Éric. Very nice examples.

However, I still wonder if there is some intrinsic value in the concept of
journal that one may miss. A journal is not just a collection of papers.
Maybe when we count journals we somehow measure their review processes.
El 30/4/2015 1:07, "Éric Archambault" <eric.archamba...@science-metrix.com>
escribió:

>  If one wants to see how excluding foreign references can have adverse
> effects on citation analysis, here the list of references for a randomly
> picked up Japanese paper.
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> Most, if not all, Japanese language references are currently ignored in
> citation analysis, this science is considered non-existent. The paper, and
> the references.
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>
> https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jssp/30/1/30_30.1/_article/references
>
>
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>    - Gibb, R., Ercoline, B., & Scharff, L. (2011). Spatial
>    disorientation: Decades of pilot fatalities. *Aviation, Space, and
>    Environmental Medicine*, *82*, 717–724.
>    
> <https://jlc.jst.go.jp/DN/JALC/10007449771?type=list&lang=en&from=J-STAGE&dispptn=1>
>    - Howard, I. P. (1982). *Human visual orientation*. John Wiley & Sons.
>    - 乾 敏郎・小川健二(2010).認知発達の神経基盤―生後8ヶ月まで― 心理学評論,*52*, 576–608.
>    - 石井正則(1998).神経・前庭系・空間識について 宇宙開発事業団(編) 宇宙医学・生理学(III-A) 社会保険出版社 pp.
>    29–41.
>    - Kanas, N. & Manzey, D. (2008). *Space psychology and psychiatry (2nd
>    ed.)*. Springer.
>    - 木下冨雄(1993).相対判断の理論―意味、基準系、動き― 京都大学定年退官記念講演録
>    - 木下冨雄(2009).宇宙問題への人文・社会科学からのアプローチ―高等研報告書0804― 国際高等研究所・宇宙航空研究開発機構(編)
>    国際高等研究所
>    - 古賀一男(2011).知覚の正体 河出書房新社
>    - Leonov, A. & Scott, D. (2006). *Two sides of the moon*. St. Marti's
>    Griffin.
>    - 中川久定(2009).第3回インタビュー(対話) 木下冨雄(編著) 宇宙問題への人文・社会科学からのアプローチ―高等研報告書0804―
>    国際高等研究所・宇宙航空研究開発機構 pp. 376–378.
>    - 牧野達郎・下條信輔・古賀一男(1998).知覚の可塑性と行動適応 ブレーン出版
>    - 宮辻和貴・田辺 智・金子公宥(2005).宇宙船内「体操」のエネルギー消費量に関する研究 体育学研究,*50*, 201–206.
>    - Oman, C. M. (2003). Human visual orientation in weightlessness. In
>    L. Harris & M. Jenkin, (Eds.), *Levels of Perception*. New York,
>    Springer Verlag. pp. 375–398.
>    - Ross, H. E. (1974). *Behaviour and perception in strange
>    environments*. Allen and Unwin.
>    - Small, R. L., Oman, C. M., & Jones, T. D. (2012). Space shuttle
>    flight crew spatial orientation survey results. *Aviation, Space, and
>    Environmental Medicine*, *83*, 383–387.
>    
> <https://jlc.jst.go.jp/DN/JALC/10011723096?type=list&lang=en&from=J-STAGE&dispptn=1>
>    - 立花正一(2009).人類が宇宙に居住するための医学・精神心理の課題 木下冨雄(編著)宇宙問題への人文・社会科学からのアプローチ―
>    高等研報告書0804― 国際高等研究所・宇宙航空研究開発機構 pp. 258–259.
>    - 立花 隆(1983).宇宙からの帰還 中央公論社
>    - Vakoch, D. A. (Ed.) (2011). *Psychology of space exploration,
>    contemporary research in historical perspective*. National Aeronautics
>    and Space Administration. pp. 85–86.
>
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> *From:* goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Éric Archambault
> *Sent:* April-29-15 5:40 PM
> *To:* Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
> *Subject:* [GOAL] Re: Number of Open Access journals
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> I think librarians are still highly concerned about journals, as opposed
> to papers. The reason is that this is how their invoices are structured –
> they buy journals and now bunches of journals. But this is changing because
> end-users increasingly do not see journals, they see results in the Web of
> Science, Scopus, Google Scholar, and universities’ discovery systems. These
> results are usually smaller, more atomistic units -  they are papers,
> conference papers, book chapters, etc.
>
>
>
> Thus, the use of search engines, as opposed to browsing on the shelves of
> libraries is progressively shifting the relevant unit towards papers as
> opposed to journals. Still, journals will continue to play a very important
> role as they confer prestige to papers, and guide authors’ and readers’
> decisions.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Uhlir, Paul
> *Sent:* April-29-15 4:09 PM
> *To:* Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
> *Subject:* [GOAL] Re: Number of Open Access journals
>
>
>
> Good question. And while we're at it, why after 20 years do we still use a
> stovepiped, disaggregated, print model construct as the primary vehicle for
> digitally networked scholarly communication?
>
>
>
> Paul F. Uhlir, J.D.
> Scholar, National Academy of Sciences, and
> Consultant, Data Policy and Management
> 4643 Aspen Hill Court
> Annandale, VA 22003
> USA
> Tel. 703 941 0817; Cell +1 703 217 5143
> Skype: pfuhlir; Email: pfuh...@gmail.com
> Web: http://www.paulfuhlir.com; Twitter: @paulfuhlir
>
>
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> *From:* goal-boun...@eprints.org [goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of
> Jacinto Dávila [jacinto.dav...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:54 PM
> *To:* Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
> *Subject:* [GOAL] Re: Number of Open Access journals
>
> May I ask a  couple of naïve questions?
>
> Why do we count journals? If we are all looking forward to a global,
> hopefully distributed archive of knowledge, shouldn't we counting papers or
> some other way of displaying solutions?
>
> El 29/4/2015 11:13, "Bosman, J.M. (Jeroen)" <j.bos...@uu.nl> escribió:
>
> I’ve always been amazed how Thomson/ISI  categorized English language
> journals (mostly published in de US/UK) as “international journals” and all
> other journals as “regional journals”. Should ask them.
>
>
>
> BTW Eric could you elaborate on what you say in your last sentence?  Will
> Science Metrix launch a bibliometrics service based on GS data or do I have
> to interpret your words in another way?
>
>
>
> Jeroen
>
>
>
> [image: 101-innovations-icon-very-small]  101 innovations in scholarly
> communication <http://innoscholcomm.silk.co/>
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> *------------------------------*
>
> Jeroen Bosman, faculty liaison for the Faculty of Geosciences
>
> Utrecht University Library <http://www.uu.nl/library>
>
> email: j.bos...@uu.nl
>
> telephone: +31.30.2536613
>
> mail: Postbus 80124, 3508 TC, Utrecht, The Netherlands
>
> visiting address: room 2.50, Heidelberglaan 3, Utrecht
>
> web: Jeroen Bosman
> <http://www.uu.nl/university/library/en/disciplines/geo/Pages/ContactBosman.aspx>
>
> twitter @jeroenbosman/ @geolibrarianUBU
>
> profiles: : Academia <http://uu.academia.edu/JeroenBosman> / Google
> Scholar <http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=-IfPy3IAAAAJ&hl=en> /
> ISNI <http://www.isni.org/0000000028810209> /
>
> Mendeley <http://www.mendeley.com/profiles/jeroen-bosman/> /
> MicrosoftAcademic
> <http://academic.research.microsoft.com/Author/51538592/jeroen-bosman> /
> ORCID <http://orcid.org/0000-0001-5796-2727> / ResearcherID
> <http://www.researcherid.com/ProfileView.action?queryString=KG0UuZjN5WmCiHc%252FMC4oLVEKrQQu%252BpzQ8%252F9yrRrmi8Y%253D&Init=Yes&SrcApp=CR&returnCode=ROUTER.Success&SID=N27lOD6EgipnADLnAbK>
> /
>
> ResearchGate <http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jeroen_Bosman/> / Scopus
> <http://www.scopus.com/authid/detail.url?authorId=7003519484> /
> Slideshare <http://www.slideshare.net/hierohiero> /  VIAF
> <http://viaf.org/viaf/36099266/> /  Worldcat
> <http://www.worldcat.org/wcidentities/lccn-n91-100619>
>
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> <http://ref4uu.blogspot.com/>
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> *Trees say printing is a thing of the past*
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>
> *From:* goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Éric Archambault
> *Sent:* woensdag 29 april 2015 0:08
> *To:* Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
> *Subject:* [GOAL] Re: Number of Open Access journals
>
>
>
> Jean-Claude has an excellent point.
>
>
>
> Our current outlook is extremely Western-centric. When I was in SPRU,
> professors (can’t remember if it was Pavitt or Ben Martin) used to joke
> that bibliometric measurement was highly influenced by the linguistic
> capacity of housewives in Philadelphia. Though today there might have been
> a shift towards Manila for data entry, it remains that bibliographic
> databases present a truncated view of the world, and bibliometrics a
> distorted, pro-Western/Northern Hemisphere biased view of science. If one
> can potentially advance the idea that all ground breaking science
> eventually makes it to Western journals, and that this is what current
> databases are reflecting, it would still remain that normal science follows
> similar rules in Russia, Japan, and China and yet a huge part of that
> content still goes unaccounted for. A normal US or UK paper is not any
> better than a normal Brazilian, Chinese, or Russian paper yet the former
> are frequently counted, the latter more frequently not. The low impact of
> non-Western countries is in part a reflection of the exclusion of journals
> published in non-English speaking countries, and Jean-Claude is right to
> say there are thousands of them.
>
>
>
> The effect on measurement is poisonous because national level
> self-citations are frequently excluded when journals are not published in
> English-language journal. If one wants to see the effect of removing
> national self-citation, try removing them altogether and you’ll see how
> badly clobbered the US ends-up in terms of relate impact. Don’t get me
> wrong, I’m not suggesting to measure that way as it would be unwise (I
> always advocate the inclusion of self-citations at all levels even though
> everyone knows some authors and journals are narcissistic and playing the
> number game – self citations are an essential part of the
> knowledge-building edifice and excluding them potentially create more
> problems than it solves), but it is a valid experiment to show how bad the
> situation currently is because we count only publications from half of the
> journals published, and that half is anything but randomly selected. For
> those who want to see the effect, I can send you a table – among countries
> with 45,000 papers or more, and adjusted for scale, the US ranked 22nd
> (after Japan, the Czech Republic and Mexico) if only citations from other
> countries were included. We never published that paper as we thought it was
> brain damaged to exclude national self-citation. Yet, by excluding many
> many locally published journals from citation counts, this is what the
> advanced analytics that come out of dominant bibliographic databases do,
> and this is a sin that we, bibliometricians, commit every day.
>
>
>
> Hopefully open access will play a huge role in reducing the distortion
> field. I can confirm there is more than 50,000 scholarly and scientific
> journals the world over, not by any measure all open access, but all peer
> or quality reviewed according to the norms of scholarly and scientific
> communication in all fields of academia. Stay tuned, more neutral metrics
> are going to be available in the near future.
>
>
>
> Eric Archambault
>
>
>
> *From:* goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org
> <goal-boun...@eprints.org>] *On Behalf Of *Jean-Claude Guédon
> *Sent:* April-28-15 9:07 AM
> *To:* goal@eprints.org
> *Subject:* [GOAL] Number of Open Access journals
>
>
>
> I have repeatedly criticized the numbers of journals used to describe
> scientific and scholarly publishing in the world. I have also regularly
> criticized the use of lists such as the Web of Science, Scopus and Ulrich's
> as being largely centred on the North Atlantic and/or OECD countries.As a
> counter to such numbers, I have pointed out that Latin America alone, as
> indicated by the Latindex vetted list, can sport over 6,000 titles.
> Presumably, if Asia and Africa did the same kind of work, numbers of
> 25-27,000 titles for the whole world would look funny.
>
> Another way to look at this is through disciplines or study areas. No one,
> I suspect, would argue that Classics (Latin and Greek) is a large
> speciality in the world of learning. Typically, classics departments are
> small and tend to disappear. Nonetheless, one can find a list of 1498
> journal in this field, *and that list is limited to open access journals*.
>
>
> http://ancientworldonline.blogspot.ca/2012/07/alphabetical-list-of-open-access.html
>
> The list dates from the summer of 2012. There may be a few more or a few
> less since, but the least one may add is that such a number reveals a
> publishing activity that reaches well beyond expectations (at least mine).
>
> Conclusion: scholarly journal publishing is a lot more complex than what
> is provided by most scientometric studies.
>
> And a final question: who is advantaged by the illusory simplicity of the
> publishing landscape?
>
> --
>
>
>
> Jean-Claude Guédon
>
> Professeur titulaire
>
> Littérature comparée
>
> Université de Montréal
>
>
>
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