On 2015-06-01, at 4:10 PM, Michael Eisen 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 wrote:

Nobody is insisting on perfect solutions - none of the current solutions are 
even close to perfect - but what Heather was proposing was a change in goals. 
There is nothing to be gained - and a lot to lose - by redefining what we mean 
by open access (and thereby what we are trying to achieve) in order to wrap its 
umbrella around every imperfect effort to achieve it.

To be clear, my purpose in this particular series has nothing to do with 
changing goals or redefining OA. Not that I don't think this should be 
discussed, rather I want to separate the topics. My point on inclusivity has to 
do with the people who are working to make access as open as they can under 
their circumstances, not the technicalities of what constitutes the ideal open 
access. The editor of a journal that would love to be fully OA but doesn't see 
how the journal can survive without subscription revenue so goes for delayed 
open access is not an enemy of open access.

best,

Heather
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