Thank you for the reply: The URL link you posted in the original announcement is invalid: <quote> The page you were on is trying to send you to an invalid URL (http://bepress %20and%20SSRN%20Announce%20Integration%20Pilot%20with%20Columbia%20and%20University%20of%20Georgia%20Law%20Schools). </quote>
Please can you post a correct link that points directly to your "open access" content so that I can explore it. I had three questions, you have answered one, * whether visitors can use SSRN/Bepress anonymously without registering? 1 ANSWER not yet given * what the explicit licence is on the articles (e.g. CC BY) 2 ANSWER depends on the author. * whether text and data mining is allowed without Elsevier' permission 3 ANSWER not yet given I'd be grateful if can you give a correct link and answer questions 1 and 3 P. On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:02 PM, Chatterji, Promita (ELS-BKY) < pchatte...@bepress.com> wrote: > Hi Peter – > > Since your question was to me, I’ll respond for bepress here. We see our > role as building a platform that excels in making open access content > discoverable. We leave the exact definition of open access, including > licensing and access control, to our customers to decide. > > > > So, for the record, yes, Digital Commons meets your criteria when our > customers decide to make their work openly available, which is almost all > of the time. When schools decide to restrict access on their content, we > support them in that too. It’s their content and we have no claim to it. > > > > Best, > > Promita > > -- > > Promita Chatterji > > Product Marketing Manager > > bepress > > > > > > > > > > *From: *<goal-boun...@eprints.org> on behalf of Peter Murray-Rust < > pm...@cam.ac.uk> > *Reply-To: *"Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)" < > goal@eprints.org> > *Date: *Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 2:50 AM > *To: *"Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)" <goal@eprints.org> > *Subject: *Re: [GOAL] bepress and SSRN Announce Integration Pilot with > Columbia and University of Georgia Law Schools > > > > Please can the Elsevier poster of this announcement define exactly (in > operational terms, not marketing fluff) what is meant by "openaccess" . > When I visit the SSRN site I find it is a walled garden with the message: > > <quote> > What Happened? > > We have observed an unusual download pattern. > > The reason why this might happen: > > - Accessing through a proxy server > - Having problems downloading a paper > - Accidentally downloading a paper too frequently > > Please consider signing in or creating a free account. You can continue > downloading this paper and you will no longer see this page. It also helps > us track reader interest and provide accurate download counts to our > authors and readers. > > </quote> > > This seems standard for other visitors who have tried to download even a > single paper. My interpretation is that Elsevier (because SSRN and Bepress > are now Elsevier) want to monitor and control readers in a walled garden. > Unless I am reliably informed otherwise I expect that Elsevier will track > all my actions on the site (monitor), probably report them to third > parties, form data products out of my actions (monitoring) and also provide > a nonobjective set of search results based on whatever Elsevier wants to > promote (this is common in walled gardens). > > Could the Product Marketing Manager inform this list precisely: > > * whether visitors can use SSRN/Bepress anonymously without registering? > > * what the explicit licence is on the articles (e.g. CC BY) > > * whether text and data mining is allowed without Elsevier' permission > > The answers to all these questions can be single words. If they are not > (YES, CC-BY, YES) then I do not regard this as Open Access > > P. > > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 7:11 PM, Chatterji, Promita (ELS-BKY) < > pchatte...@bepress.com> wrote: > > ** apologies for cross-posting** > > > > bepress and SSRN Announce Integration Pilot with Columbia and University > of Georgia Law Schools > > > > Bepress > <http://bepress%20and%20SSRN%20Announce%20Integration%20Pilot%20with%20Columbia%20and%20University%20of%20Georgia%20Law%20Schools> > and SSRN <https://www.ssrn.com/en/> are pleased to announce a joint pilot > to explore integration between their two platforms. The four-month pilot > launches today with the participation of Columbia Law School’s Arthur W. > Diamond Law Library and University of Georgia School of Law’s Library. > > Both bepress and SSRN are eager to explore potential solutions to the > obstacles that professional schools and their libraries face in promoting > their open access scholarship. The initial pilot offers one possible model > for demonstrating the increased reach of legal scholarship when work is > available through an open access repository as well as a specialized > network of peers, by simplifying population of and aggregating research > impact from both platforms. > > > > “We are incredibly excited to launch this project,” stated Jean-Gabriel > Bankier, Managing Director at bepress. “It is the first step in our vision > to work together with others in the Elsevier ecosystem in order to better > support our community with their open access initiatives.” Columbia Law > School Library Director Kent McKeever noted, “this is exactly the kind of > synergy that I was hoping to see now that both products are under the > Elsevier umbrella.” With Elsevier’s acquisition of bepress in August 2017, > both platforms are now part of the Elsevier portfolio. > > > > One goal of the pilot is to support open access initiatives by helping > libraries quickly populate their institutional repositories. SSRN and > bepress will explore ways to easily transfer research articles, enabling > this scholarship to become part of an institution’s open access > collections. “Integrating these two platforms will reduce some of the > hurdles to making law faculties’ scholarship freely available through open > access,” states Carol Watson, Director of the Law Library at the University > of Georgia. > > > > The pilot also tests potential benefits for authors. Bankier states, “we > believe that authors should be able to get credit for their readership, > regardless of whether an article is downloaded from bepress’s Digital > Commons or SSRN.” As Watson puts it, the integration will lead to a “more > accurate assessment of the true impact of their legal scholarship” by > harnessing the discovery power that is at the heart of both platforms. SSRN > and bepress are leading names in the law scholarship, with thousands of > authors > > -- > > Promita Chatterji > > Product Marketing Manager > > bepress > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > GOAL@eprints.org > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal > > > > > -- > > Peter Murray-Rust > Reader Emeritus in Molecular Informatics > Unilever Centre, Dept. Of Chemistry > University of Cambridge > CB2 1EW, UK > +44-1223-763069 <+44%201223%20763069> > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > GOAL@eprints.org > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal > > -- Peter Murray-Rust Reader Emeritus in Molecular Informatics Unilever Centre, Dept. Of Chemistry University of Cambridge CB2 1EW, UK +44-1223-763069
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