goanet-digest         Monday, April 15 2002         Volume 01 : Number 3832



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    [Goanet] Keep the website wars and rivalries out of GoaNet...
    [Goanet] MONEY MATTERS: Currency rates...
    [Goanet] Muslims, Vajapayee... and the Goa statements

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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 02:18:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ulysses Menezes - GOA-WORLD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] Fwd: Your message to Goanet awaits moderator approval

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Our messages to goanet are being moderated.

Our dynamic duo Fred and Marlon are enjoying 
the freedom here to retrieve funds from people
who know nothing about them. The fear of going
down or exposing the real truth.

With backup from Milton, I hope others will
have the guts to come up front and lay
down your case against these two politicians.

With the moderation of GoaNet everything
is being censored.... Best of luck folks
waste your money.

As you know they own Goanet. And use Herman
as a side kick when things dont work well for
them. I push up Herman.

I have no interest in the usual arguments
but if I have to fight for something thats
has harmed me, I would go to the end.

Once a prostitute always a prostitute.

Regards
Uly

p.s. Have you noticed no other reporters
from Goa post on the net. Why ? somebody
wants to expose just himself and somebody
helps him.

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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:54:29 +0530 (IST)
From: Frederick Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] Keep the website wars and rivalries out of GoaNet...

Jose Colaco of The Goan Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Sun,
14 April 2002 20:05:26 -0700 (PDT):

> I note now this unfortunate comment by Marlon on Uly.
> Let me see how Viviana reacts to that!
> rather....if she reacts to it at all!
> good wishes
> jc

My point has been, and still is, that all this only underlines the reality 
that this is a flame-war where Goa-World.net (and its associates or
allies) are slugging it out with GoaCom.com

Because GoaNet is hosted on GoaCom, please don't think that it is fair to
abuse this mailing list to rake up personal battles and rivalries. Or to
push through a whole lot of verbal garbage in the hope of upsetting
GoaNet's subscribers. 

It is unfair to inflict on GoaNetters the discussions which originated on
some other list, half-way through the discussions ... leaving
everyone here wondering what exactly is being talked about, and who is
saying what to whom, from where and for what reason...

Another element added to the sudden flurry of hot-words on GoaNet now is
that persons who walked off in a huff off GoaNet in the past, or who were
suspended for repeatedly violating this list's rules, are now back. 

All are welcome (perhaps it goes to the credit of this list that GoaNet
can't be ignored), but please keep personal agendas and
deliberately-provocative posts out. Thank you. FN
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:24:00 +0530 (IST)
From: Frederick Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] MONEY MATTERS: Currency rates...

Thanks to those who pointed out the shortcomings in the early despatch
(i) regarding the lack of Euro rates and (ii) asking what the
abbreviations stand for. Here are a number of currencies, specially from
the Gulf region, and those countries which have Goan expat communities:

Currency rates supplied by InfoLedge.com
Your base currency is : INR

AED 13.316771
AUD 26.104601
BHD 129.741379
BRL 21.321927
CHF 29.406902
DEM 22.042548
DKK 5.796213
ESP 0.259105
EUR 43.111477
FRF 6.572302
GBP 70.257915
IQD 157.325507
IRR 0.028090
ITL 0.022265
JOD 68.988011
JPY 0.371266
KES 0.625080
KWD 158.806818
MOP 6.088263
NLG 19.563136
NOK 5.655932
NZD 21.545956
PKR 0.814530
PTE 0.215039
QAR 13.433809
RUB 1.566704
SAR 13.042638
SEK 4.756082
SGD 26.643698
TZS 0.049860
USD 48.912500

- -------- End of Currency rates --------

  AED - UAE Dirham
  AUD - Australian Dollar
  BHD - Bahraini Dinar
  BRL - Brazilian Real
  CHF - Swiss Franc
  DEM - German mark
  DKK - Danish Krone
  ESP - Spanish Peseta
  EUR - Euro
  FRF - French Franc
  GBP - Pound Sterling 
  GEL - Lari
  IQD - Iraqi Dinar
  IRR - Iranian Rial   
  ITL - Italian Lira
  JOD - Jordanian Dinar
  JPY - Yen
  KES - Kenyan Shilling
  KWD - Kuwaiti Dinar
  MOP - Pataca
  NLG - Dutch Guilder   
  NOK - Norwegian Krone
  NZD - New Zealand Dollar   
  OMR - Rial Omani
  PKR - Pakistan Rupee
  PTE - Portuguese Escudo
  QAR - Qatari Rial
  RUB - Russian Ruble
  SAR - Saudi Riyal   
  SEK - Swedish Krona
  SGD - Singapore Dollar
  TZS - Tanzanian Shilling
  USD - United States Dollar

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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:34:43 +0530 (IST)
From: Frederick Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] Muslims, Vajapayee... and the Goa statements

Muslim leaders criticise Vajpayee's comments on Islam

>From Indo-Asian News Service

New Delhi, Apr 15 (IANS) Indian Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee's
apparent bid to make amends for a supposedly anti-Islamic statement found no
takers Monday.

Two Muslim leaders told IANS that they were not impressed by Vajpayee's
admission late Sunday that he did not criticise Islam but only militant
Islam or jihad.

Addressing a meeting of his Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) Friday, Vajpayee
made comments that were widely seen as denigrating Muslims. He was reported
to have said that wherever Muslims lived, there was bound to be strife.

On Sunday, after his statement was widely published, the prime minister
sought to draw a dividing line between Islam and what he described was
militant Islam.

"There is no two Islam. Islam is just one and teaches love and brotherhood,"
said Mohammad Abdul Qayyum, assistant secretary general of Jamaat-e-Islami
Hind. "To say that Muslims don't live in peace is an irresponsible
statement."

Agreeing, All India Muslim Personal Law Board spokesman S.Q.R. Ilyasi said:
"Vajpayee was not speaking like a prime minister but like a leader of a
hardline Hindu group. We demand an unconditional apology from him."

On Sunday he tried to whitewash his reported statement saying he had drawn
attention to two contradictory forms of Islam.

"I had said Islam has two forms. One that tolerates others, preaches
compassion and sensitivity. But these days militancy in the name of Islam
leaves no room for tolerance. It raises the slogan of jihad."

Reacting to his statement, Qayyum said: "Now he can give whatever
interpretation he wants. But given the situation in the country and the way
he was speaking, everything is clear.

"He was rubbing salt into the wounds of thousands of Muslims who are still
living in relief camps all over Gujarat."

The BJP-ruled Indian state of Gujarat has been in the grip of sectarian
violence since February 27 after a Muslim mob burnt a train carrying Hindu
activists killing 58 people. Nearly 830 people, mostly Muslims, were killed
in a brutal backlash that followed. Businesses and houses of thousands of
Muslims were burnt and thousands of Muslims are now packed in relief camps.

"While visiting Gujarat Vajpayee said he was ashamed of the violence. That
raised some hopes. Now he has taken a U-turn. It is clear that the BJP is
openly going to play its Hindu card," said Qayyum.

"He has painted nearly 140 million Muslims of the country with same brush.
This has tarnished our image in India as well as in the outside world."

Ilyasi added: "The BJP wants to polarise India on religious lines.
Vajpayee's comments were part of their agenda."

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>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Apr 15 15:32:38 2002
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 23:26:32 -0700 (PDT)

Dear friends

Looking at yesterday's newspapers, you (assuming that you are an 
Indian Muslim) must have realized that you are a Jehadi, according to 
the Prime Minister Mr. Atal Bihari Vajpai. Look at some of his 
comments in yesterday's BJP meet at Goa:

"Wherever there are Muslims, they do not want to live with others 
(who practise different faiths). Instead of living peacefully, they 
want to preach and propagate their religion by creating fear and 
terror in the minds of others.''

"No one should challenge us about India's secularism and no one 
should teach us about tolerance...We were secular even in the early 
days when Muslims and Christians were not here. We have allowed them 
to do their prayers and follow their religion. No one should teach us 
about secularism."

Earlier, in the RSS meet in Bangalore, they have already told the 
muslims to beg the hindus for their favour and goodwill etc. for 
survival. The point is that all these comments and speaches are 
giving a very wrong message to the people at large, and since not 
very many muslims are speaking up against them, things are getting 
worse. How long can we sit and tolerate being dubbed the Jihadis 
whereas most Indian muslims wish to live in this country peacefully. 
Shouldn't we stand up and talk to the prime minister and the BJP 
govt. directly and ask for explaination.

We request all of you to please come for a rally of Indian Muslims 
who want peace, that we are planning in the near future in Delhi - to 
take a memorandum of protest against what his govt. is doing. Please 
keep in touch for a final date for this rally. And kindly visit this 
website for more details. Also send us contact details and emails of 
Indian muslims who want a peaceful livelihood in India. The site is: 
<http://indianmuslim.sphosting.com/>http://indianmuslim.sphosting.com/

Kindly give your suggestions, and forward this mail to more interested people.

Yousuf Saeed, M. Naim, Sabia Khan and others
Indian Muslims for Peace

<http://indianmuslim.sphosting.com/>http://indianmuslim.sphosting.com/
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