goanet-digest Saturday, May 18 2002 Volume 01 : Number 3983
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In this issue:
[Goanet] EU' s concern
[Goanet] A SIMPLE STORY
[Goanet] GOA SU-RAJ NON ENTITIES
[Goanet] GOA SU-RAJ PARTY NON-ENTITIES
[Goanet] Evidence or Mere Assertions
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Date: 18 May 2002 15:43:37 -0000
From: "Rohit Shukla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] EU' s concern
European Parliament Concern over violence in the Indian state of
Gujarat
http://www2.europarl.eu.int/omk/OM-Europarl?PROG=PRESS-DAILYNB&L=EN&PUBREF=-//EP//TEXT+PRESS-DAILYNB+DN-20020516-1+0+DOC+SGML+V0//EN&LEVEL=2&NAV=S#SECTION13
Joint motion for a resolution on India
Doc.: B5-0287/2002, B5-0291/2002, B5-0298/2002, B5-0299/2002,
B5-0304/2002
Debate : 16.05.2002
Vote : 16.05.2002
Vote
Following the recent outbreak of violence in the Indian state of
Gujararat, leading to the loss of more than 900 lives, MEPs
adopted a resolution strongly condemning all sectarian violence in
India which followed the burning to death of 58 Hindus on a train
earlier in the year. There is a call on the Indian government and
the State
government of Gujararat to continue investigations into the
killings with a view to bringing those responsible to justice. The
Commission and Council are requested to support the Indian
government with relief programmes to the area.
Press enquiries:
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(Strasbourg) tel.(33) 3 881 74751
(Brussels) tel.(32-2) 28 42941
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 17:33:04 +0000
From: "Joe Vaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] A SIMPLE STORY
Dear Bambino & Hello all!
Funny or painful, there is almost always something to learn from a story.
Here�s one:
A SIMPLE STORY
A rat looked through a crack in the wall to see the farmer and his wife
opening a package. What food might it contain? He was aghast to discover
that it was a rat-trap.
Retreating to the farmyard the rat proclaimed the warning; "There is a rat
trap in the house, a rat trap in the house!"
The chicken clucked and scratched, raised her head and said, "Excuse me, Mr.
Rat, I can tell this is a grave concern to you, but it is of no consequence
to me. I cannot be bothered by it."
The rat turned to the pig and told him, "There is a rat trap in the house, a
rat trap in the house!"
"I am so very sorry Mr. Rat," sympathized the pig, "but there is nothing I
can do about it but pray. Be assured that you are in my prayers."
The rat turned to the cow. She said, "Like wow, Mr. Rat. A rat trap. I am in
grave danger. Duh?"
So the rat returned to the house, head down and dejected, to face the
farmer's rat trap alone.
That very night a sound was heard throughout the house, like the sound of a
rat trap catching its prey. The farmer's wife rushed to see what was caught.
In the darkness, she did not see that it was a venomous snake whose tail the
trap had caught. The snake bit the farmer's wife.
The farmer rushed her to the hospital. She returned home with a fever.
Now everyone knows you treat a fever with fresh chicken soup, so the farmer
took his hatchet to the farmyard for the soup's main ingredient.
His wife's sickness continued so that friends and neighbors came to sit with
her around the clock. To feed them the farmer butchered the pig.
The farmer's wife did not get well. She died, and so many people came for
her funeral that the farmer had the cow slaughtered to provide meat for all
of them to eat.
So the next time you hear that someone is facing a problem and think that it
does not concern you, remember that when there is a rat-trap in the house,
the whole farmyard is at risk.
Remember: All for Peace - Peace for All
Wish Only Well.
Watch the rat-trap! Have fun!!
Best wishes,
Joe Vaz
- ----Original Message Follows----
Bambino Martins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
Subject: Re: [The Goan Forum d-list] Humor: Painful Puns
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 15:43:08 -0400
Dear Joe and readers:
I found Joe's puns more fummy than painful--only in a few cases, to
appreciate the pun, I had to strech my imagination so much that my mind
ached.
Bambino
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 23:54:24 +0530
From: "Nash & Carol Lobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] GOA SU-RAJ NON ENTITIES
"The Voters Dilemma
Admittedly the Goa Suraj party has fielded clean
candidates. But most of them are non-entities." HERALD
Dear All,
All those who have appreciated the above quote from the Editorial from
our favourite HERALD are requested to check out the ELECTION MODE on
www.goasu-raj.org
The personalities nominated by the Goa Su-Raj Party most certainly qualify
to be non-entities. To be a good entity and a fit candidate to be in the
Goan Political field I suppose you have to have the following achievements:
a) You must have been on the Board of Directors of at least one Co-op Bank
which you have defrauded.
b) You must be charge sheeted at least for one murder or a case of cheating.
c) You must have at least one concubine with or without the knowledge of
your wife.
d) You must have at least one SWISS ACCOUNT into which you deposit huge
amounts carried out of the country in huge suitcases using the DIPLOMATIC
BAGGAGE TAG.
e) You must have the capacity to afford an army of Goondas who can
intimidate other candidates into withdrawing from the election if
unfortunately they are so dumbheaded not to except Rs. 10 Lakhs and above to
make an honourable exit.
I am sure the candidates of the Goa Su-Raj Party lack in all the above
virtues most necessary of a candidate to disqualify them from being a
non-entities.
Surely our good old Rajan Narayan is getting old. Not only his eyes are
going dim, but also his focus and vision. After all these years of taking up
the cause of the good old Blue Blooded Goenkar from the Red Mud of Goa he is
now looking through the eyes of a different sort of Goan.
Alas!!! Goans have changed I know. But has Rajan Narayan too?
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Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 00:15:32 +0530
From: "Nash & Carol Lobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] GOA SU-RAJ PARTY NON-ENTITIES
The Editor,
Herald
Panaji Goa.
Dear Mr. Editor,
I read with appreciation you remark "Admittedly the Goa Suraj party has
fielded clean candidates. But most of them are non-entities." in one of
your Editorials and the same has been widely appreciated over the CyberFora.
All those who have appreciated the said remark in your said Editorial are
sure to make up their minds one way or the other specially if they have
checked out the Bio-Datas of the Goa Su-Raj Candidates in the ELECTION MODE
on the website www.goasu-raj.org
The personalities nominated by the Goa Su-Raj Party most certainly qualify
to be non-entities. To be a solid good entity and a fit candidate in the
Goan Political field I suppose you have to have the following achievements:
a) You must have been on the Board of Directors of at least one Co-op Bank
which you have defrauded.
b) You must be charge sheeted at least in one criminal case.
c) You must have at least one concubine with or without the knowledge of
your wife.
d) You must have at least one SWISS ACCOUNT into which you deposit huge
amounts carried out of the country in huge suitcases using the DIPLOMATIC
BAGGAGE TAG probably?
e) You must have the capacity to afford an army of Goondas who can
intimidate other candidates into withdrawing from the election if
unfortunately they are so dumbheaded not to except Rs. 10 Lakhs and above to
make an honourable exit.
Admitedly the candidates of the Goa Su-Raj Party lack in all the above
virtues most necessary and required of a fit candidate thus making them (in
you words) NON-ENTITIES.
Surely you Mr. Good Old Rajan Narayan are getting old. Not only are your
eyes getting dimmer, but your brains have gone out of focus. After all these
years of taking up the cause of the good old Blue Blooded Goenkar from the
Red Mud of Goa you are now looking through the eyes of a different sort of
Goan. Just when after all these years we Goans have decided to change the
colour of our blood from Blue to Red, you have decided to change yours to
yellow. Or have you suddenly contacted some sort of Jaundice? Some Goans
have changed I know, but must you Mr. Rajan Narayan too?
Atanasio Francisco Lobo
Moira, Goa.
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 19:19:46 -0000
From: "santoshhelekar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] Evidence or Mere Assertions
- --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "J. Almeida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>That seems to be your heartfelt opinion, perhaps your
>"deeply felt intuition". It also happens to be false.
>
As I said, I think deeply felt intuition is a good thing to have. It
would make me happy if others thought I possessed it. So, Thanks for
the above compliment.
>
>The first is by academicians and takes a formal logical
>approach, the second is a personal account from an
>atheist who became Christian (and a beautifully
>written classic of literature from a widely-loved
>author).
>
>1. Kreeft P, Tacelli R (1994). Handbook of Christian
>Apologetics. Intervarsity Press, Downers Grove. pp
>399. (ISBN: 0830817743)
>
>2. Lewis CS (1952). Mere Christianity. Harper San
>Francisco. pp 256. (ISBN: 0060652926)
>
Thanks for these recommendations. I will try to read them. Are these
books supposed to show that my deeply felt intuitions are false? Are
they supposed to provide evidence for the Christian God and teachings?
If so, I want to tell you that I do not think that the second book
will create much of an impression on me. I have read a criticism of
this book in another book, ironically by a Christian who became an
atheist. The latter book is called "Losing Faith In Faith: From
Preacher To Atheist" written by Dan Barker, who was an evangelical
preacher for 19 years, before he became a heretic after carefully
weighing the logic and evidence.
I am not at liberty to post the relevant chapter in his book in its
entirety because of copyright issues. So I will only post a few
excerpts. This chapter is called "Mere Assertions". Here are some
excerpts from it:
"You can see that Lewis is fond of arguing by analogy. (His whole
Narnia series is one huge metaphor.) This can sometimes be an
effective way of communicating with uncritical readers; but it can be
deviously misleading if used in place of disciplined reasoning. Mere
assertions (a better title for his book) can be used in place of
carefully defended statements, and can be made to "stick" in the mind
with an analogy which, though perhaps apt, nevertheless skirts the
question of the truthfulness of the basic idea."
"So, according to Lewis, if you want to find God, look within
yourself to discover this urging to morality and realize that you
have broken this law, every day. Mere Christianity boils down to the
same old sermon: you are a sinner and you know it, don't you feel
bad? Then, when you are properly ashamed you will realize the beauty
of the plan of salvation that this deity has revealed through the
death and resurrection of Jesus Christ (which Lewis historically
takes for granted)."
"In place of Lewis's Law of Morality, more enlightened people would
champion reason and kindness: principles that are pliable and human,
not rigid and cold.
So, now I have to ask myself why I once thought Mere Christianity was
so special. Because it told me what I wanted to hear. As a
freethinker I am now no longer satisfied with mere assertions, with
creative rehashings of myth. Freethought demands evidence in place of
analogy, data over dogma."
Cheers,
Santosh
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