Dear Goanetters, I have retained snippets of the many postings on the subject/thread to trace the path of our discussion. It follows the usual trend. Insha'allah,this wont deserve a 'rejected' notice from the Admin to me.It is a case study in more ways than one! My questions to those who believe are: 1. Does God recognize the ethnicity and nationality of a person:dead or alive? 2. Is canonization the perquisite of sainthood--or just its acknowledgement by mere mortals? 3.If Jose Vaz is 'canonized',will he have greater access to God[in practical terms,will he be able to help the living Goans/expats more] than now? If the answer to any of the above is NO, what are we debating for ? Spend the time in prayer...to St.Jude,if needed!
Viva Goa. Miguel > From: "Bosco D'Mello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 11:31:30 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: [Goanet]Re: Goa's Patron Saint > Hi Miguel,> > George Pinto and the Joseph Naik Vaz Institute in Berkeley, CA, have been at the > forefront of the crusade for the beatification and canonization of Blessed Jose > Vaz. Thanks to George's information, a number of Goanetters > petitioned the Archbishop of Calcutta some years ago when he was responsible for > the case. And if I recollect correctly George travelled to Rome to meet with > "the powers that be".> Bosco > Check out this website: http://www.geocities.com/rdapp/jv01.htm Bosco > > On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:30:26 +0100 (BST), "J. Loiola Pereira" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mr. Pinto, > The Church needs a second miracle . Goa is offering an active collaboration. (The miracle approved for the beatification was submitted by Goa!). The Cause is promoted by the Diocese where the candidate for sainthood died and not where he/she was born. I'm afraid our communication may be long drawn, due to poor 'syntonization'. So I'd better tune out. (Besides, I shun unnecessary debate). Loiola> > Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 19:40:54 +0530 > > From: Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > ant the honour of having a "Goan" Saint then pray to him, pray for him and work for his 'cause.' Miguel > Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:00:37 -0700 (PDT) > From: George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > No it is not unfair. The Archdiocese (of which Fr. Pereira is prominent) has co-jurisdiction of this matter with Kandy (Sri Lanka). One could assume ,if we do not hear anything ,that nothing is being done; which is unfair. I am all ears. George > --- Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is unfair. Fr.Loiola Pereira has helped us resolve a point of debate > > before it became another 'Brits are coming' or 'NGOs campaign in Baina' > > affaire. Why should we still try to go astray by accusing the Vatican of > > racial discrimination or the local Diocese of apathy. Miguel > > From: George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Fr. J. Loiola Pereira, > > > Can you tell us where the Blessed Vaz canonization cause stands. Does the failure lie with the Archdiocese for not promoting our own people. George > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > * Blessed Joseph Vaz -- the first Goan to be beatified -- was officially proclaimed the Patron of the Archdiocese of Goa and Daman .The > > > > Archdiocese, surprisingly, did not have a Patron till that date! Loiola > > From: "George Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 12:49 AM > > Subject: [Goanet]Re: Blessed Joseph Vaz is Goa's official patron saint. Blessed Joseph Vaz is Goa's official patron saint since 16 Jan.,2000.Before that it was St.Catherine. George From: "Miguel Braganza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 11:06 PM Subject: SFX was Spanish. > Dear Goanetters, > Francisco de Xavier was Spanish by birth and universal in his belief. He was born in Xavier castle at the foot of the Spanish Pyrenees mountain range....Equally mistaken is the view that 'Goencho Saib' was a Goan priest...even though he is Goa's patron saint and his mortal remains are to this day in Old Goa. May be we can invite a few Basque leaders to the exposition in December,2004,in Goa. > Miguel de Braganca > ----- Original Message ----- > > Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 23:55:33 +0100 > > From: "Colaco-Dias, Paulo R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi Vivek> > Francisco de Xavier was born in the Basque Region. He was born in 1506 in > the kingdom of Navarre, on the northern border of Aragon. He was the > youngest of six children. Our saint got his surname from his mother, foll owing a very old Spanish custom . Paulo Colaco Dias. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.524 / Virus Database: 321 - Release Date: 10/6/2003 ########################################################################## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##########################################################################
