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Cecil , This is a seasoned shippy replying to your post. And I would love thousand times over if anyone called me a shippy. For I was a real shippy and that goes for 25 years of my prime life. Am I proud of being a shippy? You can say that again. Because the ship discipline specially the Marchant Navy shipping discipline is what I am proud of. It made me a man, a fighter, a no bulshit taker, a loudmouth where one requires a loud mouth and so on and so forth. And being a shippy for 25 years, I have learnt how to take care of female counterparts too, effectively so. But I will not say anything on the term 'gulfee' though. That is not my cup of tea. Sorry. Although I have been to the gulf on a ship umpteen times, and though I have had parties on board as well as on shore at friends places, I have never been able to understand gulfees as a shippy. This is why I say what I say: I happened to run into a gulfee friend in Goa for the local feast dance. When I played down my gulfee friend's request to join his table where scotch bottle was doing to the show on the table, he retorted saying "I know very well you guys on the ship know how to steer the serving tray (meaning you waiters and butlers are a big show when in Goa). To that my spontaneous retort to him, which he will never forget till the day he dies was: Look here Charlie- I have pissed more scotch than you have ever sipped in your entire life. And that is the fact. At 22, when I was on board Devaraya Jayanti (1971) at Kandla port, my first purchase from the bonded stores was Haig & Haig scotch whiskey and a cartoon of Dunhills. And that was within one hour of my landing on the ship for the first time. But then I was not a 'serving tray' carrying crew on the ship. I was a trainee Radio Officer, just like your Dad was the Radio Officer. BTW. I saw your Dad yesterday passing when I was threatening the Karnataka truck driver at the Moira-Bastora-Mapusa junction with dire consequences if he didn't reload the trash he had dumped on the roadside. He did reload plus more before he was allowed to move. And what is funny is that a gulfee on his scooty was kind enough to pose for a digital photograph that I took of the entire episode. This only goes to show that hardly anything of interest happens without a gulfee and ashippy. Ain't I right???? Best regards, Floriano ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cecil Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:31 PM Subject: [Goanet]Gulfees & Shipees - derogatory? > Recently I came across a background controversy (there are many of these on > the Net) about the terms Gulfee and Shipee. > > Quite frankly as the son of a Shipee, and the brother-in-law and relative > and close friend of many Gulfees, I see nothing at all derogatory with the > terms. But then I myself am neither a Gulfee nor a Shipee. > > I would like to ask any Gulf Goans, and Goans working on Ships, if they > find the terms Gulfees and Shipees derogatory. If they do I will stop using > these terms in speech and writing immediately, with due respect to their > feelings. > > Cecil > ===== > >
