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See my detailed and specific point-by-point responses below: --- Tariq Siddiqui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ########################################################################## > # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] # > # Want to check the archives? > http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/ # > # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to > reflect respect to others # > ########################################################################## > > > --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I am on vacation right now so I don't have all the > details. However, I > > remember some: > > > > 1. Iraq had no WMDs. All we know is that no > stockpiles were found in Iraq. > > We do NOT have an accounting of the stockpiles > Saddam admitted having in the > > ceasefire agreement of 1991. This is what the 17 > UN resolutions over 12 years > > since 1991 were all about, culminating with UN > resolution 1441. Look it up > > and see what it says. > Tariq: > Perhaps the person who needs to do some "looking up" > is you. Until you can provide > some evidence of WMDs, found after March 2003, it is you who is lying, not Michael Moore. Response: The evidence is Saddam's acknowledgement in the 1991 ceasefire agreement of 1991 that he had WMDS, his previous use of these against Iran, the Kurds and Marsh Shia, and the fact that the stockpile have never been accounted for. If you remember your physics you know that matter cannot disappear. It is up to you, if you even understand what I have just listed, to explain what happened to the WMDs. I think they are either still hidden or moved to Syria. > > 2. Saddam had no links with al Qaeda. The 9/11 > Commission report documented > > many close links. However, they did not find that > Saddam had a hand in 9/11. > > Go to www.senate.gov and read the 9/11 Commission > report. > Tariq:> > Please quote from the document the exact words. You > are the one who is making the > accusation of lies. Please show us the evidence. Response: If you are too lazy to do the research you will continue to be uninformed and continue to embarrass yourself. I gave you the source. You look up the findings. > > > > 3. During the recent election The Media Fund was > running radio ads claiming > > that the Bush administration rounded up the Bin > Laden family after 9/11 and > > flew them out of the country during the flight > embargo so they could not be > > interrogated. This was being said in spite of the > 9/11 Commission finding > > several months ago that these family members had > been investigated by the FBI, > > had no ties to Bin Laden, and were flown out for > their protection after the > > embargo was lifted. > Tariq: > The ads did not say what you say above. The ads said > that the Bush administration > allowed the Bin Ladens to leave. That is factually > correct. What you are pissed > about is the typical Republican ambiguity being used > by the Democrats. Response: It is your attempt to twist the truth that pisses me off. The Media Fund ads specifically said that the Bush administration sent a plane to pick up all the Bin Laden family members and specifically said they were flown out of the US BEFORE the embargo was lifted. > > > > > 4. There is a whole internet industry that has > developed to debunk Michael > > Moore's lies. One URL that has documented over 35 > deliberate distortions and > > falsehoods is www.farenheit_fact.blogspot.com, > complete with sources and > > footnotes. There are several others listed on > www.moorelies.com Tariq:> > So is that why no credible media outlet has > published any of this? The problem you > face is that you refuse to see the other side of the > story and prefer to be fed on a > steady diet of Fox News. Response: Again you are being lazy. I have given you a source that gets its credibility from all the footnotes and sources of information that they have used. Why don't you check these out yourself if you are really interested in the truth? I have done so. Many credible media sources in addition to Fox News have reported on these falsehoods. You just don't want to know the truth. > > -Tariq > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! > http://my.yahoo.com > > > >
