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i hope every one is enjoying the debate without rancor / unfortunately truth appears to be whatever you beleive / most of the world looks at americans as spoilt selfserving people/ that is far from the reality/ as proved by the election most americans voted for god good liberty and democracy for all ()/ america is a beacon(and a country) for immigrants who were opressed in their own countries andthey are desperately trying to convince the world that true democracy (individual power) works / for those who are skeptical pl read the us constitution and bill of rights i challenge them to find a better freedom document in history not even the magna carta empowered the individual/ the only document in history that empowers the individual rather than the state is here in the us/ the haters need to learn that what they hate is actually what they dream of /and hope their countries will emulate the ideals of america/it is not perfect but americans love their dissenters more than any other country that is a lesson for all /u s votes on what they morally feel is right / in a world that is hedonistic (thats what you blame the us for) the amercans did stand up for morality and proved that they can still stand up for morals and values in a world that doesnt care or find an expediant excuse / /remember the voice in the wilderness /americans voted for whats right rather than what the world wanted/ if america did not exist as an opponent to dictators (hitler stalin lenin krushchev hirohito saddam etcetc )who will !1 would you rather have people subjugated or free / freedom is not free it comes at a moral price / those who are willing to pay the price live free / those who complain but remain subserviant have no right to complain about the free / if you are envious of the rights and abilities of the us /i challenge you to change your countries to empower the individual rather than the state / most indians who escape the constaints of their gov / find pastures only limited by their abilities / derek desouza ps please dont get personal in responses but debate with conviction / and we can have fun dd