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Having observed a lot of physical fights in Goa I conclude that most fights, even though they may start with kicks and blows, end in a double 'caam'. Technically speaking in wrestling terms a 'caam' is a half-Nelson. You hold your opponents neck in the crook of your elbow and with the other hand pull at the wrist of your bent hand to lock the 'caam'. The objective is to break the opponents neck (which never happens) or at least choke him for enough time that he admits defeat (which also never happens). We Goans, being the way we are, we will never give up. So both opponents 'caam' each other and keep hoping that the other will eventually give up. This scenario of two opponents locked in a double 'caam' are seen mostly in school, street or bar room fights. Normally the guy who manages to get his right hand round the other's neck has the advantage as the other guy is forced to use his left hand which usually is not as strong. Although strength and bulk is an advantage sometimes even a skinny guy with hard bones can have the edge. A bulky opponent though can use twists of the hip to dislodge his opponents feet and then smash his 'caamed' head into the nearest wall or barstool. But in general both will remain 'caamed' with one guy obviously gasping for life but trying to put on a demeanor of being quite ok. Once the 'caam' lock stage has been held for about four minutes somebody will intervene (a) because it gets quite boring for the audience and (b) the loser, who does not admit he is choking to death, might actually choke to death. In extreme cases the locked 'caam' opponents may even fall to the floor in exhaustion but will not unlock the 'caam'. All of the above refers to male-male fights. When females fight in Goa it involves hair pulling, biting, scratching etc. and of course a lot of vile screaming and cursing. Male-female fights in Goa are very rare in public. I hope I have managed to answer Fred's question. I didn't have the time to read his e-mail but just read the "Subject" line.

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