From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<My knowledge of homosexuality from a medical, psychological or humanist perspective in very limited.
My only input into this dialogue is to make two points:
1. What Fr. Ivo is describing are normal situations.� What Dr. Colaco is describing are abnormal/ pathological/ medical situations.
2. Just because a rule cannot be applied in 100% of all (normal or abnormal) situations, does it mean we should not have rules/ norms / policies etc.? Simple examples seat belts, motorcycle helmets, vaccinations or screening tests etc >
Earlier: "Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<Homosexuality is against human nature. Human being is complete in male and female. Nobody can change the fact.� Our anatomy vouches for it. Let us teach our young people the 'facts of life' in a correct way>
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Dear Gilbert,
This will be my final public contribution on this matter. I will be happy continuing private off-list discussions on the topic.
I recommend that we pay close attention to Kevin Saldanha's statement: "every biological population is made up of a bell curve of individuals.....the 5% will be CONSIDERED deviants from that normal population BUT ARE STILL VERY MUCH A PART OF A NATURAL BIOLOGICAL POPULATION.
Please understand that I seriously contest Fr. Ivo's position that "Human being is complete in male and female". I also have to think again about the following from Fr. Ivo "Our society is suffering already from the consequences of all kinds of aberrations, one of these is homosexual, 'same-sex' union... Enough is enough..." + "Children and young people need a Papa and a Mama, not two papas, or two mamas..."
Here are some of my queries:
1. What consequences is society suferring from because of aberrations?
2. When homosexuals ask for "same-sex" union, WHAT is it that are they asking for, & WHY?
3. What number of Children and young people in this world have ONLY one papa or one mama?
4. Is the care of children with the Two Mamas any worse than with one mama?
5. Why are millions of children enslaved into child labour, child prostitution, child marriages, begging ? Is it because of Two Mamas?
and finally .....these two queries
6. Just because the 'homosexuals" are different from us (like the blind, deaf, mentally challenged, promiscuous, Down's, extremely brilliant, extremely un-brilliant, unable to sing a verse, wheel chair bound, poor, very wealthy etc ), should we be descriminating against their rights? Do we NOT (after much struggle) provide Wheel-Chair access to the physically disabled? Do we NOT adjustments for the Hearing Impaired and Bllind?
7. Is it normal to have CELIBACY imposed on an individual - as a requirement to serve as a priest? If so...ON what NORMAL human or even Religious basis?
good wishes
jc
Please note that the above post is NOT an endorsement of the ABUSE which was perpetrated by those Monsters, NOR of the actions of the higher Monsters who just watched and kept quiet, NOR of the REAL Cafeteria Catholics who kept Oh So Silent about this horrendous abuse by a minority of priests ......
The actions of ALL of the above brought untold suffering to a lot of people .... including the vast number of priests who are GOOD
Hear Me!
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