"Joe Vaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Subject: [Goanet]Re: Santosh's chutzpah & S. Verses
Re: "Santosh Helekar" post
on Sun Aug 17, 2003
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Hi Santosh:
No amount of ranting and raving will do you good. Please pause for a moment
and review what you write before you make blatant statements and cry foul
that people are unjustly accusing you. Maybe a revisit and reread of your
earlier posts will refresh your thoughts and enlighten you as to why I wrote
what I wrote.
Lets face it - I am not the first one who has confronted you regarding
your bashing of Christian beliefs and religion, and (at the rate you
continue,) certainly I wont be the last. Youve had personal encounters
with more than a dozen people who took courage to stand up and repudiate
your refuse and your provocative/nonsensical posts. It appears that you
are taking advantage of bashing Christianity, and what it stands for, with
your continual abuse, sarcasms, and disrespect for scripture and religion.
Your hostile attitude towards the Christian beliefs and religion is not new.
Goanet and TGF are ridden with your rampant and derisive posts against the
miracles performed by Christ. You even called the miracles games and an
appeal to ignorance - thus ridiculing religion and Christian beliefs. When
you were advised that these were recorded facts as history testifies, you
again vehemently attacked both author and post.
Santosh, it becomes increasingly difficult to believe what you say, because
you keep changing your mind to suit your evolving (and myriad) but varying
versions. Please make up your mind before opening your mouth, so that people
can draw the right inferences from your thoughts and words.
For example Santosh said:
[When I stated in my last post that there are many priests and professors
who believe as I do, what I meant was that, like me, they regard the
supernatural events in the scriptures as metaphors or allegories - not
literal truths.] ????
What are you exactly saying herein above? Are you telling this audience that
many priests regard the supernatural events in the scriptures as metaphors
or allegories -- not literal truths.? You want us to believe you that these
men were ordained priests based on their belief that the scriptures are
not literal truths?
I hope you will not accuse me that I misquoted you above, so I will provide
your exact quotes. Heres more:
Joe Vaz wrote:
I had cited just two examples of a miracle by definition: Red Sea
parting as depicted in the movie "The Ten Commandments" (i.e., not
simply a low tide); JESUS RAISING THE DEAD MAN LAZARUS TO LIFE (John,
xi).
Santosh Helekar wrote:
As I alluded to before, NOBODY SAW THESE GAMES. Joe Vaz, Have you seen
them? THE ABOVE MIRACLES ARE AN APPEAL TO IGNORANCE...
Further, Santosh Helekar writes:
I am not ashamed of having done such a thing.<
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In another post Santosh wrote:
[A LOT OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING I, WOULD STRONGLY OBJECT TO ANY CENSORSHIP OR
BAN OF SATANIC VERSES OR ANY OTHER RELIGIOUS PARODY IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM.]
You still agree with your foregoing statement and your friends agree with
too?
Joe Wrote:
You will always find people standing up and correcting any obnoxious or
provocative posts here.<
RE:
Your subject claim lacks credence or substance, and the rest of what you
say is invariably subject to validation -- as >in the case of your
confusing and inaccurate data that baffled the New Rochelle
students/audience.<
Santosh, you need to reread your article -- A Migrant's View On Who We Are
(by Santosh A. Helekar) -- and confirm that has no inaccuracies. One does
not have to be a historian, to spot apparent inaccuracies.
RE:
As for your belief/s in the caste system and idol worship, -- you are free
to indulge in the above activities, at your heart's content. I will not
dissuade you in your personal beliefs.
Santos wrote:
[The above statement is another pathetic attempt by Joe Vaz to put
words in my mouth.]
Actually, Santosh you have your own 'foot in your mouth'. :) Take a good
look at your comments below and discern what invites you to frame the
question as you did.
Santosh wrote:
[I doubt you respect people's belief in the caste system and idol worship.]
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In closing, I request Santosh to please take Viveks good advice. You are
indeed running out on ideas and *seriously* need a break from your outburst
of negativism and egocentric demeanor.
Joe Vaz
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