Mario,
Please do not try to isolate Fred. I am proud to say that I have a very high
regard for Tariq Ali, a fellow "left winger". I have know him since student
days in London. I believe that he has an excellent intellect and that is
right and that you are wrong to follow, parrot wise, Bush and his cronies
including your use of the term "Islamo fascists."
It is the uncritical stance of the USA re Israel (and by definition against
the Palestinians and Arabs, except the oil rich Saudis) which is the source
of most of our contemporary international woes.
Please reflect on what I have said above instead of providing a parrot like
response
as always.
Cornel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario Goveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Re: How will the left wingers spin this?
"Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Tariq Ali is both a left-winger and of Muslim
origin. In my view, the point he makes below need
to be taken note of, rather than going along
solely with the version largely emerging from the
dominant media perspective.-FN
http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,12780,1523821,00.html
The price of occupation.
Tariq Ali
Friday July 8, 2005
The Guardian
Mario replies:
Tariq Ali's is precisely the kind of opinion my
Israeli friend had predicted from the left. Like
Haroon Siddiqui at the Toronto Star, these closet
jihadis have infiltrated the mainstream media and use
their positions to spread vicious and hateful
Islamo-fascist propaganda.
Ali spouts the callous Sunni Muslim point of view,
which considers Shia and Kurds as heretics to be
exterminated and are enraged that the Taliban and
Saddam Hussain have been deposed.
Here is a quote from Tariq Ali, which clearly
demonstrates his attitude, "Ever since 9/11, I have
been arguing that the "war against terror" is immoral
and counterproductive. It sanctions the use of state
terror - "
Fred wants us to consider the opinion of someone who
can describe the post 9/11 war on terror - not just
the war on Iraq - as immoral and counterproductive.
Ali thinks this war on terror "inflames" the tender
Muslim sentiments. He does not explain how Bill
Clinton's attempt to appease Al Qaeda by looking the
other way during the series of attacks against the US
throughout the 90's by Al Qaeda, in NY, Kenya,
Tanzania, Somalia, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and finally
back to NY on 9/11, was productive. He does not
explain how finally responding after 9/11 "inflames"
people who are continuing to attack you and are
escalating their attacks because they are reading your
appeasement as weakness. How do you "inflame" someone
who has already sworn to kill you and is doing his
best to do so?
This WW-III was NOT started by the US but by Al Qaeda
when Bin Laden declared war on the US in the early
90's, ostensibly because of the US's non-negotiable
support for the survival of Israel.
Fred wants us to consider the opinion of an individual
like Tariq Ali, so blind that he does not know that
state terror is what was going on in Afghanistan by
the Taliban and in Iraq by the Sunni Baathists.
This is the kind of blind Islamo-fascist hatred that
Fred is obviously impressed with.
