-------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | | | | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | | | | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I used the quotes because I have no idea whether >they apply in any meaningful sense. It's like trying to >gage the sanity of other brutal dictators like Hitler, >Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot etc, and equally relevent. >
I am sorry, I don't understand your point here at all. I am not sure if you are having some kind of trouble believing that Saddam Hussein has a deranged criminal mind. > >The opposition to Saddam's removal and the failure to cooperate >in the democratization of Iraq by many major countries, and the >drumbeat of opposition by the entire left wing community, can be >credited with prolonging the conflict in Iraq, and provides moral >support for the fascists that are targeting and killing innocent >Iraqis. > Are you claiming that the left-wing community is responsible for terrorism and the disaster in Iraq? If so, how are you going to deal with this problem? How will you get rid of the left-wing community? > >There is no evidence that Saddam was anything but cunning and >self centered, which means he had no interest in losing his >cushy dictatorship. > How do you know this to be true? Where did you look for this evidence? > >You can tell Goanetters whatever you like and they can >read the book "Disinformation" by Richard Miniter and >make up their own minds. > Thanks. Here are the answers to my questions about the book, which you refused to give, even though you seemed to have read the book, and you vouched for its credibility and authenticity. I found out that in regards to the items you had circulated here as the dreaded "WMDs", or "deadly weapons", Miniter has simply copied and pasted news reports from the "liberal" media such as BBC and Washington Post websites, even though he is claiming that the liberal media is spreading disinformation, which he aims to expose. In each case he has C&Ped only one news report. He has made no attempts to check how another, "conservative" perhaps, newspaper reported that story. What is worse is that he has truncated the C&Ped material at strategic points to leave out any caveats, and to leave an impression that one is dealing with a potential WMD. Anybody can google his C&Ped material and retrieve the entire article. If you read the entire article, you find out that none of the original sources in the articles he has excerpted are claiming that the items found were the elusive WMDs. Miniter has not bothered to talk to the original sources, nor has he obtained relevant details from the websites of the military and Governmental entities mentioned in the reports. Here are the specifics about each item: 1. The 1.77 metric tons of low-enriched uranium and the 1000 radioactive materials were the same ones that the USA Today article reported as being sealed and kept under control by IAEA since 1992. They were not the elusive WMDs. Miniter C&Ps a BBC report for this, and says nothing about the USA Today report. 2. The 1500 gallons of chemical actually turned out not to be a chemical weapon in the actual testing that was done. Moreover, this material was produced after the Iraq war i.e. after Bush's "mission" was "accomplished". 3. The one roadside bomb only had traces of sarin. It exploded close to a couple of soldiers who were not harmed in any way. Only two out of the 17 warheads had some traces of cyclosarin. And all of these things were relics of the Iran-Iraq war strewn around or buried in the old battlefield. Neither Miniter's C&Ped job nor any of the news reports that I retrieved claimed that these were the elusive WMDs. My conclusion from this is that at least as far as WMDs are concerned it is Miniter who is spreading disinformation rather than the liberal media. No-WMD is not a myth as you claimed in this forum. Please let me know if in your copy of Miniter's book things are somehow different from what I found in my copy, or if a conservative perspective makes you see things in a better light. Cheers, Santosh P.S. Personal attacks and insults against me as a result of this exposure of disinformation will be regarded as vindication of my point of view. They will therefore be triumphantly ignored.
