-------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Wishing all Goanetters | | a Prosperous | | and | | Happy New Year - 2006 | | Goanet - http://www.goanet.org | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Maurice, > I hope I am right in assuming that your posts come > from America. If so, I am glad to hear a sane voice after so > much bluster from some other American sources on Goanet. > Mario observes: > It did not take long for Cornel, who has also displayed a staunch support for the Islamo-fascist cause, to agree with the vicious and vile falsehoods written by Maurice, that I have rebutted point by point in my response. Notice that Cornel swallowed every falsehood of Maurice as if these were all true. > Cornel writes: > > I agree with you about Iran. From my perspective, it > poses one hell of a problem for the West and effectively for > the world. > Mario responds: > The hell of a problem is that most of the rest of the world sits on its hands and allows the most vile oppression to continue, as we saw them do in Afghanistan and Iraq, not to mention the African countries. Not only do they sit on their hands, but then spread the most vicious lies about the motives and methods of those that seek to liberate the oppressed, risking their own lives to do so. > Just look at the vile propaganda that you, Maurice, Mervyn and George are engaged in. Not one word of appreciation, even acknowledgement, for the liberation of 50 million oppressed Muslims, and the life-threatening and defiant elections that validated their liberation. Instead, only vicious and dishonest attacks on their liberators. > Cornel writes: > > The real dilemma is that the West and all those states already > having nuclear weapons can't use moral leverage against Iran. > Put simply, why is it, for example, OK for India, Pakistan, > and Israel to have the bomb? They are as much of a threat to > Iran as Iran is now becoming to these named countries, let > alone those much further away. > Mario writes: > The suicidal Iranians will not be allowed to become a threat, thanks to Israel and the US. > It is truly amazing that people like Cornel cannot see the difference between India and Pakistan, who went nuclear to defend themselves, and Iran, whose intentions are to wipe Israel off the map. > Cornel writes: > > To suggest that the current nuclear powers are basically more > democratic and safer than Iran is a rather weak argument. > Mario asks: > Can you be so totally delusional as to compare the US and Iran on the issue of democracy? > Cornel writes: > > After all, the USA, a democratic state, was the first to use > the nuclear bomb against Japan. > Mario writes: > Are you even aware as to why? Do you even know that Germany, Japan and Italy were involved in worldwide aggression on a monumental scale, or do you think the Allies were just attacking them for fun? Do you know that the US STOPPED WW-II in its tracks in 4 days, after 4 years of incredible mayhem? What kind of warped perspective do you have of history and world affairs? > Cornel writes: > > Further, there is hard evidence that the nuclear bomb was > considered for use well after WW2 by Western powers in > different places. > Mario writes: > So what? Are you aware that such consideration kept the peace throughout the Cold War? > Cornel writes: > > Unfortunately, it is evident, for all to see that, the Western > nuclear powers, and others, have increased their lethal > arsenals rather than reduce them > Mario responds: > This is another blatant falsehood. Exactly the opposite of the truth, which raises questions about everything Cornel says. > Cornel writes: > > There is a double standard here and Iran, knowing this, is > clearly taking the West on whether we like it or not. > Mario responds: > For this to make sense one has to be totally ignorant of Iran's threat to wipe Israel off the map. Since Cornel knows about the Iranian threat, it boils down to another falsehood. > Cornel writes: > > If indeed Israel takes Iranian nuclear capability > out militarily, by American proxy, the world will head for > even greater danger than ever before. > Mario observes: > Another nonsensical statement. If Israel takes out Iran's nuclear capability, as it should, where will the danger come from? > Cornel writes: > > Sooner rather than later, Iran or another antagonistic state > will have the bomb, and the determination and means to deliver > it successfully to distant destinations including America. The > need for intensified diplomacy is clearly greater than ever > before, irrespective of the great temptation to immediately > use a pre-emptive strike against Iran. > Mario writes: > Isn't "intensive diplomacy" what Germany, France and Britain are supposed to be attempting with Iran, with zero results? Isn't "intensive diplomacy" what China, Japan and S. Korea are attempting with N. Korea, with zero results? Isn't "intensive diplomacy" what the UN tried for 12 years with Saddam? So, what does Cornel do, demand MORE feckless diplomacy! The typical useless smoke and mirrors of the left wing. > So, Cornel, who is going to lead the "intensive diplomacy" with people who want to wipe other countries off the map, and think this will lead them to heaven, with 72 virgins each? BTW, where do all those virgins come from? But I digress. > Isn't it better to make Iran happy and proactively arrange for THEM to go to heaven before they run out of virgins? If this had been done with Hitler millions of lives would have been saved. Isn't that what all you supposedly "progressive humanitarians" want? > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | | | | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
