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Hi Santosh,
I agree with you that Elisabeth's post was "extremely well written". I am glad
you "understood exactly what she meant." As she has not replied, perhaps you
know what Elisabeth meant more than she does.:=))
Elisabeth and others (no names please) are articulate enough to write for
themselves explaining where exactly is their disconnect from the rest of us. To
facilitate the issue, I provided four possible links of disconnect (in
sequence). There may be other links in the chain. This would help immensely
and end the circular discussion that I see on the Goa-net when it comes to
religion.
Believe me, I am not trying to save their souls. :=)) I am only trying to
save their (and our) minds.:=)) Most of their writings to me is like Edward
Verdes' Konkani proverb: "Vontivoilo Nal" .... Coconut placed on top of the
wall. This can fall inside or outside the wall ... refers to persons sitting
on a fence facing both ways like the coconut on top of the wall.
If one is an agnostic (as you claim you are) then IMHO the nature of God, or
the differences between religions; or the actions or practices of the Church
through the ages are IRRELEVANT. As these issues assume the existence of God.
YOUR ISSUES may be IMHO: the creation of the universe, existence of a soul,
life after death or explanations of life.
Just as we need to give the agnostics their due, the reverse is true. You are
showing the limitations in your knowledge. The Catholic Church has evolved
both in theology and practices. The Church too has "an expanding body of
knowledge" and continues to do so. And this has occurred with every decade,
every encyclical, every synod, every thesis written by theologians, and others
who have made a career in the field. Like in science and medicine, some
concepts in theology, philosophy, and ethics survive the test of time and
others do not. Do you think all religious libraries across universities and
churches are just static? So perhaps you need to keep an open mind just like
the rest of us. We have been down a similar path before.
Mention of anecdotal events of 1000-200 years ago is someone who is stuck in
their thinking, unlike the church. Again, for my own interest, I look forward
to hearing a FEW lines from OTHER individuals on the WHERE AND WHY of their
specific disconnect.
It is easy to be a contestant in the game of "pin the donkey's tail". Any
blind peson can play this game. Infact, only a blind person can play this
game!!!
Kind Regards, GL
----- Santosh Helekar wrote:
Elisabeth's post was extremely well written and much more comprehensible. I
understood exactly what she meant.
In particular, in the above-quoted excerpt I fail to understand why anyone
would want to compare the church with all these unrelated disciplines. In what
way is a hierarchical religious institution analogous to an expanding body of
knowledge such as science?
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The church has committed blunders over the 2006 years of existence. Even the
Church admits it. So again where is the beef?
But so has every branch of science, medicine, law, history, anthropology,
politics, etc..
Do you not go to a doctor because medicine 3500 BC to 1500 AD believed in some
/ many archaic concepts?
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