Hi Jose
Many thanks for your comments re this subject. I had indicated to you
previously that, your comments are always welcomed by me, and likewise, I am
sure you have already read Mario's reply to you on this theme. I regret I
have taken a little longer to reply than intended.
In order to avoid an emerging saga on this theme, as was the case over my
article in the Herald Newspaper, and Goanet, about eighteen months ago,
titled: In The Portuguese Vortex, I think it would be helpful, initially,
to clarify if you and I are indeed talking about the same thing.
I had used the mild word "lament" as in the dictionary sense meaning
regret(s), possibly with some resignation, for being unable to do anything
about a given situation. It is also, to my mind, akin to the example I had
provided in my Goanet review of Blood and Nemesis, by Ben Antao, when I
indicated that my young Portuguese friend, in Nairobi, painfully lamented
the fact that, some Goans like me had expressed joy when we heard news on
19, December, 1961 that the Portuguese were ousted from Goa. I for one, was
strongly opposed to colonialism in principle.
In my view, there have been many laments on Goanet over the matter of the
"exit" of the
Portuguese from Goa. Here is one example from your good self, following the
Vortex article, when you asked me... "would you not agree that the hospitals
were a lot cleaner in Portuguese times than they are today?" This is indeed
a factual question but the context, in my view, is entirely related to a
lament that things were better in Portuguese times.
Likewise, some others on Goanet indicated positively, in a response to
Mario, that a lot of consumer durables, including varieties of cars, etc
were widely available in late Portuguese times but not after December 1961.
An elderly Goan women lamented, when interviewed by an English author
(Dalrymple), in Panjim, "that things were a lot better in Portuguese days
compared to since the Indians took over." Your namesake, Bernardo Colaco,
has never stopped lamenting the departure of the Portuguese and the
consequence of a "bharati takeover."
If you seriously think about it, this kind of lament/lamenting is not
surprising at all for the kind of reasons Gilbert Lawrence provided,
although I believe that there are deeper socio-psychological reasons for it
but on which I will not elaborate for now.
I am sure Martinho would agree too about what I said on "lament" as he has
expressed much lament on Goanet that, Britain did not come to Portugal's aid
in 1961. Further, following my Vortex article, on Goanet, I received a great
deal of literature, privately, from those small groups strongly opposed to
the "Indian takeover" of Goa. Indeed, such aspiring focused groups still
relish hopes that Goa will be returned to its previous Lusitanian state and
even become the "New Socialist State of Goa." A Goan called Agnelo in
deepest North America has opined that something dramatic like this will come
about through his planning for armed action!
If you surmise that I am imagining that there is some simmering measure of
lament re the departure of the Portuguese, following my easily recalled
examples from Goanet, then that is your prerogative. However, I do believe
that there is definitely, and factually, some ongoing lament, irrespective
of the many possible reasons for it, and that this is a valid issue for
discussion purposes on Goanet.
Please rest assured that I do not feel strongly about the issue at all, and
that, I stumbled light-heartedly on it, as possibly, something of interest
to some on Goanet on comparing lament for the departure of the British,
French and Portuguese from India!
Yours as ever,
Cornel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jose colaco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet@goanet.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 5:33 PM
Subject: [Goanet] RE: Cornel & The continuing lament about the Portuguese
departure in 1961 from Goa
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 18:37:21 +0100
<I have noted, like others on Goanet that, there are those who lament the
departure of the Portuguese following Indian military action in December
1961.>
My dear Cornel,
Grateful if you would please expand on the above from you.
You may wish to direct me to the writings on GoaNet of "those who lament
departure of the Portuguese following Indian military action in December
1961"
You may also wish to review the writings ... if any... and advise IF the
lament (if any) is related to the "departure of the Portuguese "
OR IF ...the lament is related to some other related but non sequitur
issues.
I wonder HOW anyone who has lived in Goa can write that the writings on
Goanet represent a lament wrt departure of the Portuguese following Indian
military
action in December 1961.
There might be a lament ....but is it related to what Cornel has made it out
to be.
I submit that your above "association" is based on the Gouveian principle
of dys-logik
You are invited to see the strong parallels between what you have stated and
the proverbial Gouveian Dys-logik which pervades the Goan Cyber Spaces
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