Hi Cornel,
I hope you have cooled down since your post on trying to determine the various 
groups.  At the outset let me state, I am no scholar on religious theology and 
philosophy.  I DO have an interest in religious history. 

To my simple and basic thinking, religion is one that is LIVED BY and not the 
theoretical theological or philosophical gibberish people write and argue about 
ad nauseam.  It may be, I consider it gibberish as I don’t follow those 
writings and thoughts.  Yet, I hope you and others will agree with me that 
religion is something to LIVE and not just something to write or talk about. 
Because I am such a simpleton, I can ask some basic (almost stupid) questions 
and make some equally basic (very stupid) observations and comments.

So now that I'd be so presumptuous to state that we agree on the basic premise, 
let's make sure we stick to the above trend of thought.  
If one makes no claim on religion, but does live by a rock solid principles and 
moral code, is he / she an true ATHEIST?
If one claims a religion, but then DOES NOT live by it, by their OWN claim or 
actions, is he / she a true NON-ATHEIST / Believer?

Based on the above, and contrary to some claims by both Hindus and Christians, 
the practice of Hinduism, to me is a religion.  Please let me know if you 
disagree.  I will stop here so that we can make sure we are talking the same 
semantics.

If you want to continue this dialogue, cut the theory and have a ton of common 
sense.  The more annoyed you get, it suggest.... just may be.... perhaps.... 
that my "supurlem questions" are getting to the "heart and soul" of this 
controversy in my search for some basic practical answers.  I am NOT interested 
in merely throwing LABELS. Neither am I interested in discussing a specific 
individual situation or any single religion.  I would entertain a "scenario 
situtation" as above. I will respond to your prior post after your response to 
this post  (and questions) and your agreement to these parameters of 
discussion.  I hope it will be educational for all, starting with me.:=)) 
Kind Regards, GL

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