--- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ...as a liberal politically, and > > ...only tore up my party membership card over > Blair's insane support for Bush in the war on Iraq. > Does this make me some kind of odd character > because, presumably, I would not vote Republican or > perhaps even Christian Right were I in America? > Mario observes: > Cornel, Being liberal does not make you an "odd character". > But a political liberal unconditionally supporting the elimination by force of an entire country? Now that's odd. > A political liberal, unconditionally opposing the liberation of a country from a brutal dictator's heel? Now that's odd. > BTW, as usual you are confused about the US. Slightly less than 50% have voted for the Democrat candidate for President, many of whom are not liberal, simply misguided and misinformed :-)) > Cornel writes: > > I am not aware that anyone on Goanet has really > attacked Catholicism as you imagine. > Mario observes: Since you seem to have missed it, there has been a furious and sustained attack on Goanet of ALL morally based organsations and their members. I think Catholicism would be included. What forum have YOU been following? > Cornel writes: > > we have some of the greatest crooks on earth > constituting the Mafia, Cosa Nostra etc. Let's, for > now, only note the other "rock solid Christians" > like Hitler, the putative priest, Stalin, and > innumerable South American Christian/Catholic > socialised persons, and latter day dictators > like Castro, Samoza, Peron, Pinochet, Oscar R > Benavides, Luis M Sanches Cerro, and Juan Velasco > Alvarado among so many others with a torture and > murder record that runs into millions. > Mario responds: > These people are "rock solid Christians" in the same way you are a "rock solid political liberal" but yet support the physical elimination of one entire country and strenuously opposes freedom and democracy for another. > None of those you cite above lived according to the rock solid Christian code, so to represent them as practicing Christians is simply flat-out false. > Stalin was a committed communist, and one cannot be a communist without being an atheist. > The biggest tyrants in history based on their body counts, mostly of their own people for political gain, come from from the communists like Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot, whose massacres make all the other animals you selectively list above look like boy scouts. The tyrannical despot, Fidel Castro, also a communist, is like a choir boy in front of these supreme animals. >
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