From: Rosary Fernando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: About stories on Invasion of Kuwait
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 23:15:25 -0700 (PDT)
This letter appeared in the Arab Times of August 2, 2006:
Sir,
This is in reference to a letter by Mr. Veronica on Aug 1. His
fabricated, thriller, rape story of Aug 2, 1990, turned out to be a flop
because,
1) there are people still living here who witnessed the 1990 invasion.
2) I ti snew for us, since only Veronica knows, that the Iraqi soldiers
started rapign expatriate women on the early morning of Aug 2. He also
claims "expatriate women were the target of Iraqi soldiers during the first
4 days of the invasion in Kuwait City and the Filipinas went underground
within 48 hours!" Veronica must release the truth to the public on who
provided the residential addresses and nationalities of expatriate women to
Iraqi soldiers in the early morning.
3) It is very big lie that the Catholic church was surrounded by Iraqi
tanks on the early morning of Aug 2. It is meaningless and never happened
during the whole invasion period.
4) Since his house is nearby, instead of going to his house and taking
care of his family, why did he go to another family and pave the way for an
Iraqi soldier to follow him and enter the house?
5) Veronica told the "British passport holder priest" to rescue the
catechist girl from an Iraqi solder by showing his cassock!!! or calling
and talking to the pronuncio in Iraq.... etc.... etc. Thank God! Veronica
didn't tell the priest to call Saddam and ask him to pull back his troops
from Kuwati!!!
6) Veronica claims that on the first day there was a big explosion in
the city and the telephones went off. (The truth is that the telephones
were working here until the land war started on Feb 24, 1991.)
Veronica was then sleeping under the cocunut tree in Goa! If anyone
says Veronica collected money from Goans in the name of Kuwait by showing
Kuwaiti flag, nobody will believe it.
7) Veronica claims he also saw, at a tender age, the Indian army
"raping, molesting and harassing Goan females" in 1961!
I ask Veronica not to waste the columns of Arab Times with such stories.
Christle Ignatius
Jeleeb Al-Shyoukh
(ARAB TIMES, WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 2, 2006 - PAGE 18)
From: lenny dsouza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Brutality of invaders against women.
To: [email protected]
Hello All,
Actually I just wanted to read this article and close it but then i
thought
of sharing with you a few things.
Go back into history you will find that there are not many wars that are
fought where brutality of invaders against women has not been there, if
it has
happen in the 1961 or 1971 or 1990 it should not be a big suprise to any
one.
Yes if these things have not happened in the 1990 war then its just
against
nature.
First of all, i think that a lot of people who are read this article are
living in the gulf and are very well aware of the nature here. If you
think
that you as a female are unsafe in this country then its better you
leave the
country now, better live else where. One should not be targetting arabs.
Cornel, ( I taught in an Arab school for five years and had a lot
of close Arab friends from College etc. I therefore have a pretty good
idea
about Arab attitude to sex etc.)
What are you trying to say? that the others are not hungry? You must be
leaving on the moon, last year, girls in delhi were picked up from the
streets
and raped. Girl in mumbai was raped by police, This has not happened in
the
arab world.
What are trying to prove here by removing past history of the 1990 wars.
These are war games, and in war there is no room for friendship, its
just war,
Politicians must look at all sides before going to war.
Lenny
Hi A. Veronica Fernandes
I read your article on the invasion of Kuwait by Sadaam Hussein's army with
considerable interest. I happened to be stopped there briefly at the time.
My question to you is quite specific but in two parts:
a) the evidence of brutality and rape in Kuwait was subsequently deemed to
be untrue, especially about the removal of vital equipment in a hospital
where babies were being treated. I have also heard this from a Kuwaiti
colleague, permanently resident in Kuwait, and who was present throughout
the brief occupation. So my question is, how firm is the evidence (and what
is it) about rape by Iraqi soldiers in Kuwait city?
b) What is the hard evidence of rape in Goa by Indian soldiers in 1961? I
have never come across the details except as hearsay.
I abhor rape totally but am curious whether there is firm substance in the
hearsay, especially in Goa.
Many thanks
Cornel DaCosta, London, UK.
----- Original Message -----
From: "A. Veronica Fernandes" <averonicaf806 at hotmail.com>
To: <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:08 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Brutality of invaders against women
> Tomorrow is the 16th anniversary of the invasion of Kuwait by Iraq. On
the
> eve of this, I am reproducing the following write-up of mine appeared in
> today's local Arab Times.
> BRUTALITY OF INVADERS AGAINST WOMEN.
> "Yet again I remember this date 2nd August. On this date in 1990 this
> beloved country Kuwait from where I earn my sustenance was invaded by
> Saddam's Iraq. It was early in the morning while going to work I was
> caught by the Iraqi soldiers and while they were leading me to the open
> air make - shift prison opposite to Sheraton Hotel, I managed to escape
> and ran towards the Catholic Church to take shelter there but to my bad
> luck it was surrounded by Iraqi Tanks. Then I knocked at one Flat of a
> known family to tell them to disappear from there because I realized
> raping of innocent civilians will start. Meantime Iraqi soldiers as per
> my information and firm belief were hunting for innocent prey.
Thank you Mr. Veronica Fernandes for writing few lines about the Brutality
of Invaders against women, in Kuwait, Goa, Bangladesh etc. during the time
of invasion. Your few words have a great morality. Thank you once again.
Viva Kuwait...... Viva Goa.
Santana Afonso
>From: "A. Veronica Fernandes">
>
>Tomorrow is the 16th anniversary of the invasion of Kuwait by Iraq. On
the
>eve of this, I am reproducing the following write-up of mine appeared in
>today's local Arab Times. I am sure this may be of some interest and
>information to many of goanetters in particular and Goans in general.
>
Knowing the Arabic culture as I do, I have no doubt
whatsoever that rape would have taken place as Iraqis
invaded Kuwait, that summer of 1990. Rape is all to
common in the Arab Muslim culture, mostly unreported
and unspoken of, much too often incestuous. My mother
who worked for 30 years in a hospital, tells of
horrible, horrible stories that would churn even the
most stoic stomach.
Elisabeth
---------------------------------
> --- cornel <cornel at btinternet.com> wrote:
> >
> > My question to you is quite specific but in two
> > parts:
> > a) the evidence of brutality and rape in Kuwait
> was
> > subsequently deemed to be untrue,...etc.
> >
> Mario asks:
> >
> Oh, really? Is this according to the Independent or
>
> the Guardian, or perhaps the BBC?
> >
> What has the removal of equipment from a hospital
> have
> anything to do with the rapes of Kuwaiti and other
> women, which were widely reported at the time.
> >
> Was Cornel aware that Saddam and his son's and his
> Baathist supporters had "rape" rooms where they
> raped
> the wives and daughters of their political
> opponents,
> in front of the men?
> >
> Rape was standard procedure by the Iraqi Baathists
> to
> humiliate their political opponents.
> >
Well, I was in Kuwait during the Iraqi invasion. I was staying in the city
centre (Darwaza) area, a few km from my office in Shuwaikh. I remember an
incident involving an Arab man who barged into a women's hostel within two
days of the Iraqis taking control. The whole country was at a standstill
with people remaining indoors. The Arab claimed that he was an Iraqi and
asked two young women to follow him into a room. It so happened that the
guy's skills did not match his ambitions and he was overpowered by the two
Indian women. They tied him up and alerted a passing patrol party. An
Iraqi Captain and two soldiers came in. After exchanging a few words with
the intruder, one of the soldiers hit him in the face with the butt of his
rifle. He was actually a Kuwaiti, trying to fish in troubled waters! The
soldiers dragged him away and the next day his body was found hanging from
a crane near the city centre. A board pinned to his body declared in
Arabic:
"Rapist". This is not to say that the invading Iraqis committed no
rape. But this incident took place near the locality I was staying in. I
heard that before taking the man away, the young Captain told the women,
"You're our sisters and we'll protect you. I'm a soldier first and then a
Muslim. It's our duty to protect you!" So we can't paint an entire army
with the same brush. Cheers, RKN >> Mario I definitely was not
wanting your usual much repeated absurdity in a sermon. I neither needed
nor wanted what you had to say. My gentle questions were to A. Veronica
Fernandes who wrote an article about the 1990 invasion of Kuwait and was
present when the rapes were supposed to have taken place in Goa and in
Kuwait. I am sure he could provide an infinitely better response than you
could ever do. Cornel
BRUTALITY OF INVADERS AGAINST WOMEN.
"Yet again I remember this date 2nd August. On this date in 1990 this
beloved country Kuwait from where I earn my sustenance was invaded by
Saddam's Iraq. It was early in the morning while going to work I was
caught
by the Iraqi soldiers and while they were leading me to the open air make -
shift prison opposite to Sheraton Hotel, I managed to escape and ran
towards the Catholic Church to take shelter there but to my bad luck it was
surrounded by Iraqi Tanks. Meantime Iraqi soldiers as per my information
and
firm belief were hunting for innocent prey. The family where I entered
consisted of females too and while I was telling the mother to leave this
place immediately and hide somewhere, came the knock on their door and when
opening it, I found an Iraqi soldier threatening all the male members in
the
Flat to depart leaving only the females. I resisted but finally
surrendered
when the Iraqi soldier aimed his gun at me while I was holding the young,
trembling and sobbing daughter of that family in my arms to prevent her
from
falling into the hands of the sadistic Iraqi vulture in the garb of a
dirty, filthy and uncleaned soldier. Then I came home which was nearby only
and called the Catholic Church. Fortunately I got on the line one priest
who was very much known to that family where Iraqi soldier entered and that
young girl was catechist in the Church under the same priest who was on the
telephone. I narrated the whole story to that priest who as a holder of
British Passport afraid of his life. I requested the priest to come out
and
show his daringness in the true spirit of Christ and save the young girl
from the clutches of the Iraqi soldier. I even told that priest that at
this stage your cassock alone can play a positive role on the Iraqi
soldier.
He only told me to pray for the girl. Then I requested him to call
Baghdad and speak to Pro Nuncio there and tell Him to bring pressure on
Iraqi Government thru diplomatic channels to instruct Iraqi soldiers in
Kuwait to put a halt to hunting for females in Kuwait. At that moment a
powerful bomb exploded around Kuwait City and our telephone connection was
cut.
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