Santosh Helekar:I like to consult contemporary or historical writings for facts about our history. I will retrieve from what I have read in the past the names and/or designations of public officials who were reported to be corrupt and crooked in the Portuguese administration when I have some free time later.
jc: Excellent step == Santosh Helekar:: But asking to substantiate a factual statement by Roland is not asking to prove a negative. All he has to do is tell us where he got that factual information from. jc: Asking Roland to provide factual information about the absence of corruption during the Portuguese regime (esp the last few decades of their regime) in Goa = asking him to prove the negative. == Santosh Helekar:: Given the fact that there was no freedom of the press in Goa during the Portuguese rule, most of the claims made by lay people are hearsay, and for the most part, wrong. jc: This is a specious method of arguing a point. There was ALL kinds of information about Goa available in Bombay, some accurate some invented. Did any information of civil service corruption turn up in Bombay? Did any information of that corruption turn up on Dec 20, 1961 or thereafter? The civil service was mainly Goan. They did not go anywhere. Anybody complained about corruption involving those Goan civil servants? Some might still be alive. Check with them na! BTW: I wonder if my reference to 'Goans' was construed appropriately. == Santosh Helekar: As for Josebab's understanding below, we know very well that in the post-Portuguese Goa many of the administrative officials who are known to be crooked and corrupt are also Goans, jc: Is it or Is it not because the SYSTEM (that Roland was referring to) did not tolerate corruption ? I am not really up to date with the events of 2014. Personally, I have no evidence at hand to state that any officials are corrupt in 2014. But, for now, I will accept Santoshbab's view on matters as they exist in 2014. He may wish to opine IF the present SYSTEM tolerates corruption. === Santosh Helekar: My observation has been that corruption and crookedness does not have anything do with education, race or religion. jc: I almost agree. My belief is that it was the SYSTEM which played an important positive or negative role...along with the Culture of Zhalacch Pahije and Chalta hai. jc
