This debate has little to do with Gilbert's book, Jose's website or
Frederick "wouldn't make a big issue if someone chose to reproduce my
writing, with or without credit".
This is about first understanding the meaning of plagiarism and resisting an
apparent attempt to revise what it means.
FN: let us not pretend that our views are all original, and not influenced
by what we read and hear.
RESPONSE: That explanation will not work in an academic environment. Many
universities now have a position called CIO - Chief Integrity Officer, to
deal with issues of plagiarism, copying, etc. Its a very serious issue.
SC: Yes, I'm sure people plagiarise thoughts, content, ideas, quotes, all
the time and as reprehensible as it is, on an internet forum, it's hardly
liable or of commercial value or of any great significance to anyone other
than the plagiariser's ego.
RESPONSE: In the case of JoeGoaUK and as informed by Jason, the website that
plagiarised JoeGoaUK's original creation (photos) has won some award.
Dismissing plagiarising as lacking significance would be unfair to the one
whose work was plagiarised.
GL: Contrary to what Santosh writes, merely giving the source of information
/ reference does not constitute "authorized use" or permission to plagerize.
RESPONSE: You cannot get permission to plagiarise. You can obtain a
permission to copy/duplicate.
GL: Santosh seeks to apply the same standards to a lay-person bulletin board
or high school and graduate non-fictional publications, in Goa or in USA.
RESPONSE: I tend to agree with SH on this issue. As I said earlier, some
Goanetters send news articles to Goanet without including a weblink to the
source. That can get troublesome when the original creator finds his/her
article on Goanet without a reference. Another reason why Goanet Rules
require only a blurb to be sent to Goanet with a weblink to the entire
article. Some people understand, some do not. I have received messages from
Wikipedia editors requesting permission/compliance for some articles being
lifted from Goanet and pasted directly in Wikipedia without quoting sources.
Those messages were directed to the authors of the articles/posts. It would
be safe to surmise that Wikipedia is concerned about plagiarism too.
GL: Is the absence of the references the deficiency of the author, or is it
the laziness of the reader in failing to further research the facts that is
of interest to them?
RESPONSE: If the author has included exact text from published works, its
"deficiency of the author" (to quote your words).
GL: I have also looked at non-medical non-fictional books in my home
library. None of them had references. I would encourage others to do the
same and check it out for themselves.
RESPONSE: I looked thru my motley collection of books randomly. As far as
most non-fiction books are concerned, they have a Bibliography. I'm looking
at my most recent addition, "India's use of Force in Goa" by "Arthur G.
Rubinoff (thank you Eddie Fernandes for the link) that was published in
1971. The book has a total of 134 pages of which 15 are devoted to the
Bibliography that includes Books, Articles, Periodicals, Pamphlets,
Yearbooks, Cases, Government Documents and Unpublished Material.
P.P. Shirodkar has provided references at the end of each chapter of his
book - Goa's Struggle for Freedom.
- Bosco
- Re: [Goanet] Plagiarism Bosco D'Mello
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