I get Goanet news. I saw a Goanet post about this in this morning's edition -
but just a couple of snide comments about how people flock to fake relics like
the Shroud of Turin. I didn't see anything about the Basilica in those Goanet
posts before this one. I checked google and there's nothing there either.
Who's building it?
I'll post my comment on Goanet.
Filomena
On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 8:30:09 PM PDT, dom martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
My regrets, Filomena, if the essence ofmy cynicism is taken literally. As for
the Basilica, check thethread. I merely pitched in where others initiated the
concept.
Dom
On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 2:49 PM Filomena Giese <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi EddieFunny thing - yesterday I was wondering where you are these days Your
retirement was years ago your emails and posts have become infrequent- and I
miss them. You have replied to Dom in your succinct style, in a few short but
totally true words. No point in continuing this conversation with someone
prejudiced against one’s own community. We have surely had the same discussion
with him before. My Nirvana will be to have as little to do, perhaps nothing,
with male patriarchal clericalism. One lifetime is enough. We got JosephVaz
his just recognition.Let me know if Dom ever tells you why he wants a basilica
now when he never did anything for his cause.I send warm good wishesFilomena
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On Aug 7, 2019, at 3:40 AM, BT Yahoo Mail <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Dom,
I couldn't quite follow your line of thought.
Your choice of words is intriguing but also more cryptic than clear.
What are 'ancestral perceptions'? And what has 'astral' to do with them?
You then name three architects, including a legendary Egyptian and move on to
Fr Jose Vaz, now a saint. No black or brown Catholic can become a saint without
formal approval by the holy white guys at the Vatican.
It is true that it took nearly three centuries for Vaz to become saint.
First, a bit of history:
Vaz died in Kandy (Ceylon) in 1711 after a long illness. His cause for
sainthood was taken up within two years of his death by the Jesuit Bishop of
Cochin. Vaz's order, the Oratorians, investigated his 'miracles' and sent the
results to Rome. Pope Benedict XIV was not impressed and dismissed the petition
in 1742.
The cause was revived at the turn of the 20th century. A great deal of evidence
on miracles was collected and submitted to the austere Pope Pius XII in 1956.
More petitions by bishops and laity followed. The Eurocentric Pope was not
moved.
[In contrast, the Spaniard, Junipero Serra, who had founded the Franciscan
missions in California in the 18 century was beatified in 1988 despite strong
objections from Native Americans and 40 American historians & anthropologists.
His cause was started just four years earlier, in 1884.
The European Vatican supports their own compatriots.]
And by the way, Dom, why your special interest in a Basilica for St Vaz?
Eddie
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On Tuesday, 6 August 2019 17:50:30 BST, dom martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
As mortals, our ancestral perceptions are more terrestrial than astral.
However, there are stellar exceptions in the likes of Imhotep, Leonardo de
Vinci, Frank Lloyd Wright, etc.
In the Goan galaxy, we have a glowing deprivation. It took us almost three
centuries before we could huff and puff a fellow Goan up a divine pedestal.
Given that track record, it will likely take another three centuries before
we see the realization of the Basilica of St. Jose Vaz.
However, now that our very own Santo Bhav has a new email address
([email protected]), perhaps, he can pull some strings, as well as
miraculously jump-start the quadriplegic Goan hamstring, so that Goenkars
can swiftly band together and rubber-band the requisite capital to complete
the Basilica on or before Goanet's Ruby (or Rubaiyat) jubilee!
PS: Some three decades ago, I contributed 50,000 rupees towards the then
Blessed Jose's cause. If that sum was petrified into a CD, it should now be
significant enough to serve as the first official “fator” for the proposed
Basilica. And since musculoskeletal ailments have incapacitated my palette,
I am graciously willing to offer what is left of my corpus as an easel to
fellow artists, so that when they are called upon to dedicate their
creativity to St. Jose's glory, they can oblige without fret, let or
hindrance!
Dom Martin
