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Hello Cornel
Your response to the hautiness of the Catholic Priests version of how
Consensual Sex (in all its forms) is preached within the Catholic religion is
exact & to the point.
I await with bated breath for a constructive reply from the said Priests, but
alas, unlike you and the majority of the posters on this forum, I will still be
waiting when I am one hundred years old.
You will find the same drivel being repeated over & over again, by the
Catholic Church who made such an impression on me when a young lad, in Goa
(from 1951 to 1961 which included some years in LHS in Margao), that I HAPPILY
turned to Hinduism for spiritual & life-style needs & guidance (I will not go
into ALL these, they are too numerous to list here), but it was the BEST thing
I ever did, besides being a husband & father to my family.
They too follow Hinduism (oil lamps and puja in our temple area where we have
a large statue of GANESHA, with many smaller ones we picked up on our travel,
they join statues and various large & small pictures of Muruga, Shiva, Durga,
Kali Maa, Parvati, Ram, Sita, Laxmi, Krisna as a child & as adult, trees,
flowers, incense, lamps & bells, many requisites for puja, grey, red & pink
powders, betel nuts (fresh leaves as when we can get them, or Tulsi when we can
get them also), & that is about half of our needs.
Different aspects of the Gods & Goddesses & the needs of the day, week or
month, year or for others, ourselves or for charity, its all there, in our
minds, to hopefully make us better people & our acceptance of how others
perceive us, is strengthened by our prayers for others & ourselves, to live in
harmony & peace.
I guess I am just LUCKY for what we have , well my wife is Mauritian and of
the Hindu faith anyway, and our two daughters have taken to this naturally &
are probably more atuned with the Gods & Goddesses & RESPECT others for their
faiths (they have friends who are Muslims, Buddhists AND Catholics, oddly
enough of Brazilian & Portuguese origin too).
For now, we wait for the reply to your post & I'll bet the response will be a
bland mixture of quotes from the Holy Bible............... throwing in lots of
Old Testament stuff in for good measure.
John Monteiro
Berkshire, England.
CORNEL DACOSTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Dear Fathers Ivo C da Souza and Loiola Pereira,
I note both your reservations (as expressed below) about responding to the
topic of Is Consensual Sex OK? Such a question for discussion purposes would
not be problematic, in the least, in most broadly liberal societies in the
world and I therefore wish it were not problematic for you two in Goa as well.
Moreover, both your responses were incredibly vague, woolly and thoroughly
unhelpful. Should not you both, charged as providers of moral guidance in
Catholic matters, necessarily provide a coherent Catholic response to the above
question? If this is the level of an intelligent response provided by members
of the Goa clergy, I am surprised anyone can take such respondents seriously at
all. Indeed, it echoes Fr Loiola's failure to respond, despite several
reminders, to five genuinely inquisitive, and not terribly demanding moralistic
questions of mine on caste and the Catholic Church in Goa.
I respectfully have to ask what on earth you think your business is, if when
choosing to engage on Goanet, you can't provide even elementary moral guidance
on the question above, are haughtily but uninformatively dismissive of it, and
fail to respond to my earlier moral query about caste and the Catholic Church?
I also most respectfully suggest that, the Archbishop of Goa reflects on
whether you both, as holders of senior offices in the Church, are fit for
purpose.
Dr Cornel DaCosta, London, UK.
"Fr. Ivo C da Souza" wrote:
Dear Fr.Joaquim Loiola,
Your answer has made an important point: controversy is an 'art'. Values
cannot be sidetracked.
Discussion on Internet can enlighten us or darken our relationship.
Thanks!
Ivo da C.Souza
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joaquim Loiola Pereira"
>
> Of course, opinions as many as there are heads there will always be.
> Especially in 'juicy' topics like the present one.
> But let the heads remain in their proper place
> and not try to 'outhead' some head else, heading for a headless bunch.
> To present one's point of view without torpedoing other viewpoints appears
> to be a forgotten art.
> Or may be we must snobbishly call ours a 'contemporary' art of discussing.
