Dear Joe,

Thank you for the compliment. I contribute my mite in time , energy
and knowledge. I am forever aged 18 years ...currently with 30 years
experience in it!!

 Goa is one of the smallest states in India that has the largest
number of people living in the biggest state in the world .... the
state of Confusion !!!

The THUMB RULE to understand the anti-SEZ is this: SVM is APOLITICAL
[highly debated issue] while GMAS is obviously POLITICAL. If you were
at the Jetty fasting .... slowly realising that the SVM folks were
different, you would have noted that almost ALL the speakers from
Babush D'Souza to Laxmikant Parsekar were either BJP MLAs, ex-MLAs or
supporters ... for cash or convenience. I do not know if Fr. Lino
Florindo or Fr. Bismark know the difference yet. That is not to say
that catholic priests canot support the BJP or that the BJP CM of
Rajasthan can promote the destruction of Krishna bhoomi for illegal
metal aggregate mining. Some of them literally believe that "God helps
those who help themselves." They help themselves to things that do not
belong to them ...and suffer in the long run.

Both movements are good as long as the Congress is in power. If the
BJP gains the ministry, GMAS will no longer be the same. Even if
Matanhy continues the battle, he will find himself increasingly alone.

Mog asundi.

Miguel

Re: [GOANET] Re: GMAS v/s SVM  ..the confusion persisits.
Posted by: "JoeGoaUk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]   joegoauk
Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:24 am (PST)
Thank you miguel so much for coming back on this one.
Thanks for your time too.
I do appreciate.

Ps. I was there from 10 to 7pm (day long fast)but not as JoeGoaUk.
I am not good at raisng funds, I was not intended to do that in my appeal
(although I did get some mails asking who or where to send money to). My
intention was only to give FIR (from Goa to NRGs) about the happenings in Goa
and the need to protect Goa now.
btw, I also said in my prev. mail that one goan goanetter to receive my small
contribution, can anyone figure it out who could be that person? No prize for
guessing though!

--- Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear Joe,
>
> For my two pence worth: support the GBA and the groups it supports. DO NOT
> RAISE FUNDS FOR ANY ONE.
>
> JoeGoaUK, your core strength is in networking, photographing and informing
> Goans about Goa. You keep doing just that ...and you would have done more
> than what a thousand Goans have done for their native land. What more can
> anyone ask of you? Without coming for a single meeting of the Core Group ...
> and may be not even attending a rally ...you have done more for Goa than many
> would have dreamt possible. and you have a rare quality amongst Goans
> ...asking for directions when one is lost. May your tribe increase and
> multiply to populate the whole of Goa!
>
> I think that some of the points about the two main anti-SEZ movements are
> clear now ..... and some are NOT.
>
> For example:
>
> SVM (SEZ Virodhi Manch) has two Co- Conveners: Charles Fernandes and Edwin
> Pinto. It is a FEDERATION of VILLAGE LEVEL MOVEMENTS like Kerim Nagrik
> Samitee [KNS] and People's Movement Against SEZ [PMAS], the Sancoale Action
> Committee and others, including a group in Quepem. It is suported by:
> CSJP Council for Social Justice & Peace -Fr. Maverick Fernandes [also a GBA
> Core Group member] and
> Architect Pravin Sabnis [also a GBA Core Group member] both of whom have
> provided it the necessary leadership
> and also, to some extent, by some members of the multi-role groupings that
> are avowedly anti-communal [generally meaning anti-BJP]
> JG - Jagruth Goem.. Aravind Bhatikar [interestingly, Soter D'Souza and
> Shashi Kamat of JG are with GMAS]
> LS -Lok Shakti -Dr. F C Colaco, Aravind Bhatikar
>
> GBA (Goa Bachao Abiyan)- Dr. Oscar Rebello,MD, is the public face and
> icon of GBA ..."a PEOPLE'S MOVEMENT" and not an NGO. We, Dr. Oscar and the
> rest, keep saying this ...and will continue to do so till the People of Goa
> understand the they are an integral part of the GBA. It did not fall from
> heaven GBA is People's Power. The TEAM led by Dr. Oscar only gives direction
> for this power to move Goa ...and its Government .... in the right
> direction.
>
> The GBA is NOT a part of SVM. The GBA is with the people of Goa who are
> agitated about the loot of their land through SEZs. It supports all such
> movements ... and SVM is one such movement.
>
>
> GBA (Goa Bachao Abiyan)- is not against GMAS. It only refuses to share a
> political platform because it is avowedly APOLITICAL.
>
> In the GMAS grouping, most of the individuals and groups are either pro-BJP
> or at least anti-congress. There are, of course, exceptions. Notable
> exception is Shashi Kamat of JG.
>
> PS Pilar Society - Fr. Lino Florindo sfx belongs to Pilar Society BUT does
> NOT represent it. I do not believe the Superior General of Pilar Society has
> made any statement about support to GMAS.
>
>
> PCAS -People's Committee Against SEZs led by Ajay Pereira, Quepem, BUT
> not PMAS, led by Charles Fernandes and Edwin Pinto.
> GHAG Goa Heritage Action Group - is led by Yatin Kakodkar and Heta Pandit
> and NOT Fr. Bismark Dias/ Prajal Sakardande. The name Goa Heritage Cell is,
> to the best of my knowledge, a part of UTT GOENKARA. The confusion may not be
> unintentional as Prajal is also a member of GHAG.
> GPS Goa Peaceful Society - is led by K.Kalanand Mani. Soter D'Souza is the
> Director of the Centre for Panchayati Raj, an unit of PS.
>
> JoeGoaUK wrote:"I even thought our Miguel sent a few mails/Messages to
> remind us GMAS organized Rally at Panjim. I think I was wrong. May be I read
> too many newspapers or too much on the net groups or mailing lists." No sweat
> on that count. GMAS is also anti-SEZ and so promoting it is no problem. I
> will not associate with it because of two reasons:1. it is a POLITICAL group
> and I do not indulge in politics, 2. it is BJP leaning ...and will surely
> change tracks if the BJP comes to power. The Meditabs Specialities Ltd SEZ at
> Buthkhamb-Keri in Ponda Taluka is demning evidence of its double standards.
> Even now , its former MLA of Priol who rose to the Assembly on the blood of
> Nilesh Naik is not with the anti-SEZ movement in the very land that Nilesh
> died to protect.
>
> God forbid that I join turncoats like this! I will not oppose the GMAS as
> long as they do good. I supported Manohar Parrikar on many issues, too. But
> when it came to cutting trees unnecessarily for broadening a road [also
> unnecessarily] for IFFI ...or for promoting Ramesh Deo's half truths about
> the conquest of Goa and its aftermath as "Goa's Freedom Struggle" VCD ...I do
> not believe any one has doubts about where I stood.
>
> I have already posted on the netgroups the message from the GBA Treasurer
> that WE do not need money at present, thanks to the Vicente Xavier Verodiano
> Award prize money received earlier this month. Anthony wanted NRI goans to
> contribute money. All we want is PARTICIPATION. For Goa's sake,
> PLEASE DON'T SPOIL US with your money.
>
> Once again: Do not contribute funds where not needed ...or specifially
> asked for! If you contribute, ask for a receipt with name and signature of
> the receiver. People rob gold from the dying in road accidents. Making money
> during agitations is nothing to be shocked about.
>
> Mog asundi.
>
> Miguel

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