Moderators of Goanet, please allow me for little lengthily message. This is because unless I take both the issues that appeared in Goanet my comments would not make sense. Two issues in question are: Message: 5, dated Sat, 16 Feb 2008 from Vinay Natekar" under Subject: [Goanet] Is Congress Party Secular? Visa vise Message: 4 dated: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 from Dr. Jose Colaco.
Natekar wrote: Congress is the biggest fascist and communal party who came to power at the center and some states including Goa by divide and rule policy inherited from the colonial British rule. Dr. Jose Colaco's response: I wonder if Mr. Natekar looked up the meaning of the word 'fascist'. If he did, it is unlikely that he would have called a socialist party like Congress as being Fascist - a term which goes hand in hand with 'ultra-nationalist' parties. My response: May be Natekar used the definition as is given in the free dictionary on line which describes Fascism to be a system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. Recall Indira Gandhi.... Who imposed EMERGENCY and put thousands to Jail..and also recall what her fate was thereafter!!! Natekar wrote: It has ruled for over 50 years of post independence out of 60 years by keeping people uneducated and illiterate and dividing Hindus and minority religions on communal basis, and further divided majority Hindu community by their ludicrous reservation policies thereby deepening caste biases and exploiting them for garnering their vote bank by instigating insecurity and fear psychosis in their minds. Dr. Jose Colaco's response: This is a blatant lie. IF there is one thing good the Congress did - it was to make education and opportunities available to the masses of the poor of India. Mr. Natekar may get hypertensive about this but the other entity which did this is the Catholic Education System which can boast (rightfully) of having providing solid education to individuals of ALL religions e.g. Ashok Chowgule (St.Paul's, Belgaum), Sandeep Heble (Don Bosco's Panjim), Parvez Musharraf & LK Advani (St Patrick's, Karachi), Suresh Kalmadi (St Vincent's, Poona), Sunil Gavaskar (St Xavier's College, Bombay), etc etc My comment: Dr. Ambedkar, the father of constitution, had made a special provision within constitution which was applicable for 15 years from the date of acceptance of constitution of India that India government would put in special efforts to educate and uplift the SC/ST and there after this special provision will laps. But what did Congress do? Under the pretext of uplifting poor SC/ST they siphoned the money to their bank balance and yet continued to extend the special provision to nearly 60 year and beyond! Not only is this they have now included Other Backward Classes (OBC) also in the special provisions defeating the very purpose of Dr. Ambedkar thinking! You call this development? I think Natekar is right. What you are citing is just a handful of example which has got no meaning in the context. Natekar wrote: In Goa Congress has succeeded in imbibing a permanent imprint on mindset of catholic population that BJP is a communal and Hindu's party. Thus even knowing that Congress party is filled with corrupt, tainted and scandalous politicians, they stand by them and elect them repeatedly. Dr. Jose Colaco's response: I am not sure that one can imbibe something on another. I always thought that the word "imbibe" denoted self. Having said that I invite Mr. Natekar to expand on that thought. My response: Let me expand this for your Dotor! This response is like pretending to be drinking milk (or butter milk) in a stainless steel Cup by seating under the coconut tree when one is actually drinking fenny!! What Natekar mentioned is absolutely true and that's what Congress has been taking advantage off. Please don't run away from truth!!! Natekar wrote: Congress is much responsible for influx of migrants in Goa by legalizing their slum settlements with electricity connections, providing them with ration and voter cards to improve their vote tally which has disturbed the demographic scenario in the state. Similarly Congress and its partner Communist has also aided millions of Bangladeshis who have infiltrated illegally to settle largely in Assam, W.Bengal and Mumbai for their political gain. This trend has created the security risk to our country as evidenced in last year's bomb blasts in Hydrabad and U.P having Bangladeshi HUJI terrorist's involvement. Dr. Jose Colaco's response: This is the opportunity for Mr. Natekar to name the corrupt, tainted and scandalous politicians that (Catholic) Goans elect repeatedly and with whom the BJP has NOT made convenient political alliances. For balance, he may wish to name other corrupt, tainted and scandalous politicians with whom the BJP has made alliances. My response: Dotor what are you saying? If this was not the case persons like Luizine, Sardhina, and other congress persons would have not been the perpetual MLAs as if they are born to be so! Secondly, IT'S CONGRESS, STUPIED, Stupid because they are more than anyone who is responsible to attract large influx of migrants to Goa. Have you not heard what GBA had said when they were agitating? Have you not heard when SEZ lobby, of course Arvind Bhatikar and Co, when they were agitating? Natekar wrote: Congress is shamelessly delaying carrying out death sentence ordered by Supreme Court to Mohd Afzal the traitor who masterminded attack on parliament. The patriot Muslims in India will certainly want this terrorist to be hanged for attacking our nation. Is Congress trying to gratify Jehadis, or few radicals in Muslim Populace by dragging their feet in this execution? Dr. Jose Colaco's response: I must advise Mr. Natekar of two facts of life. (a) As of Dec 1961, every single Indian citizen has the Constitutional right to freely enter, move and reside in Goa. (b) The first initiator of migrant slum development in Goa was the MGP's Dayanand Bandodkar. Please vide Rajan Parrikar's picture of the slum in what is called Zuarinagar. The more recent mass movement of migrants has been facilitated by the Konkan Railway (Thank you George Fernandes). Now.... hit and run is like a piece of cake. The slum dwellers in Dongor apparently voted for Digambar Kamat when he contested on a BJP ticket. How does the Congress get the credit for this? ....and there was a plan for Cuncolim! My response: Dotor, you are giving twisting answer. Natekar has never made any mention that citizens are not free to enter, move and reside in Goa nor he made a mansion of MGP rule in Goa. He is expressing himself about. As for me, with no second thought he should be executed as sentenced by Supreme Court.... Off the subject.... When twin tower was blast, under pretext, USA erased Afghanistan and later Iraq and Iraq's Sadam.....what have you to say on this? Did you protest? No ..because it was initiated by while skin...I doesn't know whether you have affiliation to white skin or not.. Most importantly, slums in Margao are created & garnished by Digamber Kamat..you would read on this issue in my other post....please do read...and let me have your Atypical Responses for every line, for ever word, for every alphabet...I will explain you...... No problem dotor. Natekar wrote: Congress filed blasphemous affidavit thru its ASI (Archeological Survey of India) regarding existence of Lord Ram to please its coalition partner DMK. Dr. Jose Colaco's response: I am biased on this point. I oppose the Death Penalty. I also believe that state killing creates martyrs out of bandits and increases the level of violence which then kills innocents. BTW: There were many bandits operating in and around pre-1961 Goa. They attacked civilian targets - only to later proclaim themselves as Freedom Fighters. Please view the footnote of this article http://www.colaco.net/1/India-ter.htm My response: You are again giving twisted answer dotor! OR is it because no one is visiting www.colaco.net you are trying to take Goanet members to Colaco net? If so, you will never succeed. Why don't you visualize this truth!! So much so that you too moved back to Goanet after starting Colaco net and from this cite you are trying to give a call to Goans to visit Colaco Net! Surprising!! ? Any way best is to answer dotor's question as he is posing the question. Yes, dotor ... Mohd Afzal has to be hanged until death...no second thought on this issue. Natekar wrote: Congress announced ceasefire with naxals who killed thousands of civilians and policemen to appease the Communist and Maoist comrades' partners in rule. Can all these actions of Congress be called democratic or secular? Dr. Jose Colaco's response: Please advise us about the Ram Sethu project esp wrt WHICH party was in govt when the project was approved My response: Dotor, again you made a mistake! This question should have been posed not hear! Little above this!!!! Any way, answer to your query is when dog is bitten anywhere he limps only on his one leg! That's it. TOUNGE IN CHECK!!!!!!!!!!!! Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad