Dear Vinay-bab, Thank you for responding. I was wondering why you were being represented by an incompetent proxy ...who has his own axe to grind [not Parashuram's axe] ;-)
My points are interpersed below for convenience. Nothing personal about it. If it is not too much bother, I would prefer if you spelt my name MIGUEL. then I would know for sure that I am being addressed. Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:02:46 +0300 From: "Vinay Natekar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] Is Congress Party Secular ? I am responding below only to relevant points which Mingel answered to my post. I have ignored rest of his rant. Miguel wrote: It appears to be rather obvious that Vinay not only does not know party politics and polemics in Goa, Vinay's Response: When you are master of Goan politics what are you doing here on Goanet you should have begged Congress Party ticket and contested election in Mhapusa alongwith NCP candidate Ryan Braganza. You might have put some dent in Francisco Desouza's vote tally even if you could not have saved your Deposit. COMMENT: I will NOT stand for elections. I will remain a social activist. That is a conscious decision I have made. In fact, I am even trying to convince Floriano Lobo to give up politics. His core competence is activism. Besides, I NEVER beg. When I have a fellow Gaunkar of Mapusa, fellow alumni and friend as the MLA of Mapusa, why do I need to contest. So what if he belongs to the BJP now? and so what if his votebank is in Ektanagar, Ghateshwar colony and other notionally Communidade properties. If Ryan wants to follow his father's footsteps, he is free to do so. That is not where I will go. Should I decide to contest, I will do so when victory is assured. My mother won Municipal elections in a MGP-backed panel[against a two-time Chairperson of MMC, at that] without stepping out of the house ...and being a voter in another ward altogether. Our family has NEVER been Congress supporters, though I have voted for Babush when he contested on a Congress or Goa Congress ticket, too. Parties really do not matter in Goa. Ask Digu Kaka or Babu Azgaokar or Pandurang Madkaikar where they were on 26 January, 2005. You can ask the same question to some BJP men by changing the date to 1999 ;-) Vinay's comment:The rise of the BJP was .... also because it offered a full alternative to the decrepit arrogance of the Congress Party. COMMENT: Replacing one arrogance with another is not a solution ...as "India Shining" proved beyond doubt. The rise of Mayawati is a pointer that INCLUSIVENESS works best. That was the strength of Congress ONCE UPON A TIME. Miguel wrote: That the Congress has ruled over India for 50 years says something for its staying power. Why did the shine go out of the BJP in just one term of 5 years? Vinay's Response: The BJP is proud of its achievements and record in government at the center in just 5 Years. The NDA unfortunately lost the general election of 2004. A margin of only seven seats displaced the BJP as the single largest party in the Lok Sabha. This was a setback but it has not eroded the BJP's position as the premier democratic organization. COMMENT: I did not know you were a spokeman for the BJP. Mea culpa ;-) If the waterin the pool is upto one's nose, one can suvive. There after, every millimeter matters. So also in electoral arithematics. See what happened to GDA with 20 MLAs last July. What DEMOCRACY are you talking about in the BJP? Not that the Congress or NCP has any. Only the Shiv Sena is clear about what it is. ;-) Miguel wrote: BTW on whose votes did Manohar-bab win in Panaji? Vinay's Response: The prudent catholic voters have whole heartedly supported Manohar Parrikar in Panaji. COMMENT: Prudent or Pepsodent ...catholics voted for Manohar -bab of the BJP, not Congress ;-). Thank you for accepting that. Miguel wrote: Educational performance of Goans do not show such caste and religious differences, why do Government departments do even under the Congress? Vinay's Response: It is common notion of proportion. Hindus are 65% of total population so how you expect them to constitute in disproportionately lower ratio in Govt dept jobs ? COMMENT: Do not lump the Bhandaris and Marathas with the Vaishyas, Daivaidnya Brahmans and Saraswats. Let us consider as Hindu those who can enter the "garbha griha" of ANY [or most] Hindu temples. I am talking of religion, not political umbrellas of convenience. Then let us reconcile the statistics of employment in the Goa Civil Service cadres. Regards Vinay Mog asundi Miguel -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
