Rajan's post below provides interesting insights into Goans.  My response is to 
his post; and not to the original thread.  While Parrikar's response was 
revealing, a few responses on this thread caricatured the caricature.:=)).  

Here are a few thoughts to Rajan's wise commentary. I have selected four 
pertinent points which are mentioned below:

1. The "caricature itself is the reality of Goa" is not by non-Goans. That 
"reality" is often held by Goans themselves. Most Goans, and the many posts 
seen on this web site, present Goa as a caricature. Few know the specifics of 
what Goa and Goans stand for. For many Diaspora Goans, the native language that 
is a common bond, in most ethnic groups, is foreign.  Goans are loath to 
concede the reality of progress and fearful about counting our blessings.  Yes, 
there is the wearying intransigence of the behavior of the politicians with 
repeated elections or threats there off.

2. The above brings me to the second point. The caricature is not for tourism. 
It is indigenous, because of a lack of knowledge of Goa by Goans.  "Goa's 
fantastic heritage is read like a comic strip"  happens because most Goans do 
not know "Goa's fantastic heritage".  And the many who quote the heritage, only 
do so to demagogue it. Hence no surprise, the heritage will look "like a comic 
strip".  So let's not blame the "bhaile" for our shortcomings.

3. Rajan's third point below reinforces the above.  We "ceded ground by not 
asserting ourselves appropriately and widely enough". This is because most of 
those who occupy the "ground" are Goans, who take pride in being "anti-Goan" on 
any-and-all issues.  Being articulate by being "anti-", with no constructive 
solutions and comments, leads us 'spinning our wheels'. This occurs on many 
topics pertaining to Goa. The most recent ones were about caste and religion. 
The protagonist on 'widespread practice of casteism' could produce no "casteism 
data" when he maligned Goa's institutions.  And his sources / lurkers could not 
/ did not produce any posts (evidence) on this web site, even after he "offered 
to work on their English" in their posts. Hence there was little factual 
support to the never-ending discussion of Goa's casteism practices.  This while 
the protagonist repeatedly displayed (as I showed) his own casteist writings 
and attitudes, including threatening us with his academic IPs (international 
papers).

4. The "go to" people are the bhaile, to get a feeling if atleast an outsider 
can make sense of Goan attitudes.  As Rajan suggests, the bhaile too are 
confused. This was best reflected by Nehru's well known statements, when he 
described Goan attitudes.  

Kind Regards, GL

--------------- Rajan P. Parrikar 
 
the line between the caricatures of Goa and reality has been blurred beyond 
repair.  To non-Goans, the caricature itself is the reality of Goa. 

But we have let ourselves, our land, our religious and cultural traditions be 
defined by others and wholly within the framework of tourism. Goa's fantastic 
heritage is read like a comic strip. 
 
We have ceded ground by not asserting ourselves appropriately and widely 
enough.  Many Goans themselves remain ignorant of the wealth in our midst.  

It is absurd that today the "go to" people on matters Goa and Goan are bhaile 
who think they know it all after a few years of domicile here.

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