Hi Paulo As I said, its always nice to hear something positive. I stand corrected on my error regarding the Citizenship process & the processing of a Passport. The subject line was regarding Portuguese Passports but I made a reading error, was too quick reading the post, not taking it fully on board and lost the link (its creeping Alzheimers on my part, said it before), so ok I apologise this little mistake. I really dont think you needed to go into a tirade over it. I made a simple mistake, a few lines of correction to me would have sufficed. But there is a darker side lurking in your retun post on the subject (bad temper / hung-over / just not happy what life has dished out to you / whatever!!!!!!!!) As for your comment on my father's nationality & my name being John, well that is correct, I had a Portuguese father, in fact I was born in London by a Portuguese (Catholic) Father (Casimiro Monteiro)....... who was at the time (refer to Goanet Archives) under several pseudonyms due to his profession, one of which he used when he signed my birth certificate as Ullah............. In fact he signed it Emer Ullah (Emer supposedly was for Emerito, one of his many "Christian" names..........). You will find all you need to know about my father if you Google his name, as for my mother, she was half English (Protestant) and half French (Jew). As I said previously (refer to Gaonet archives again), my parents were European, I am European. I lived and breathed Goa for nearly 11 years of my life & have only recently beenable to regain my breath, on Goanet especially but not exclusively (via private emails). Albeit I stumbled upon this website, I cannot leave it alone, I feel my decade in Goa took me to heights I have never been able to regain in the last 47 years of my adult life. In one of my last posts on the subject of my 'parental heritage' I mentioned this & more, and asked (at about the same time as others were discussing their parentage & associated relatives, names / places etc) & received a post saying that if my mother was an Ullah than she was from a very poor muslim background. WHAT ????? No point in replying to that poster, who was incorrect (as was I regarding acquiring passport etc). I thought I'd correct him but he had ranted a bit, so decided to leave him thinking he was correct. He was not correct but his ranting grated on my sensibilities, so let him be, then I was pilloried by 3 regular posters for 'vomiting in public'. Yes I made a mistake in both cases, I admit I said what I did & apologised to everyone if I said too much. I mistakenly thought by adding a little of my past to Goanet, I would feel this "Goan family feeling" on this forum, how wrong was I ?? There is such a thing, that exists because I felt it with all our Goan friends & relatives who were in Goa, it is a very special feel, almost brings tears to one's eyes when you experience it. I have never felt this since leaving in 1961, and sad to say, that 'almost Goan family feeling' I had in cyber-space has been obliterated totally when I read the garbled rubbish that followed, from the 'superior' Portuguese Goans who berated me. As I said before, and say it again I also apologise for my mistake regarding the two different subjects, processing of citizenship & processing of passports. It was a genuine error on my part. I have been previously admonished publicly on this forum by one regular poster (I had assumed some posters would have delighted in the tale, in actual fact 5 people emailed me privately to ask me more about my father, and of my mother too......), but on Goanet I was wrong, 2 more regular posters disliked what I said (for their own reasons, but more on this when I have compiled my listings regarding dear daddy & his dealings in Goa / UK / Spain / Russia / Mozambique / South Africa etc etc) but did not take time to answer my question at the end which was the reason for my post) other than cyber-spit in my face. I can still feel the stain of their spittle........... Since joining Goanet begining of last year I already mentioned my boyhood in Goa, but lately said I was the result of so many faiths & my involvement in Goa ( inc First Communion in LHS / Margao / Mapuca / Santa Cruz Village / etc), so I keep to myself on this subject now, though I correspond privately to many Goanetters (some who have left because of the rough treatment they have received from some of the regular posters who sit at the front desks of the Goanet Classroom & are first with their hands up to teacher) but I still post occasionally, though my correspondence in the most part is via private emails. Yes the comparison was absurd, and I give you my heartfelt apologies for my mistake. But like I said, there was not need to go into a fit about it. Now you also know that my mother was NOT the product of a poor muslim family because of my FATHER's false surname of Ullah, you are also au fait about my father, that is all there is to say, really (on this forum). I have NO IDEA about your name, other than your first middle & last name is possibly derived from Portuguese as we are on a Goan forum, it could be Galician / Spanish too I guess your family name is originally Portuguese, (perhaps a conversion if you are 100% Goan / PIO etc), I dont know, but I hazard a guess your surname could have been de Dias also, etc etc... None of my business either. Regards John Monteiro
Paulo Colaco Dias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (TRUNCATED) John Monteiro, let me tell you that your comparison is most absurd. You are comparing the process of recouping or acquiring Portuguese citizenship with the process of getting a British passport. That comparison does not make sense and it is ridiculous................. It is Portuguese Citizenship that takes time to get. Not a Portuguese passport because you can get that in less than 24 hours.............I have often corrected Goans in this respect. You should not say you are getting a Portuguese passport. The right term is getting Portuguese Citizenship which is a completely different process. In order to get a Portuguese passport, you need to be a Portuguese citizen first. Just like in order to get a British passport you need to be a British citizen first............. Clear now?????............... I do hope so. BTW, is your name really John on your birth certificate or Joao? :-) I am just surprised that your father being so Portuguese gave you the name of John instead of Joao..............Paulo Colaco Dias -------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Goanet] portuguese passport Its always nice to hear of something positive, and thank you for that, shows that perseverance & patience pays off in the end. Well done & congratulations to you. Two years does seem an awful long time when you consider in the UK three weeks for a passport is 'a lifetime's wait' for the majority who want to use it only to go on holidays to Costa del Fish & Chips. Patience on your part, correct documentation etc have at last paid off for you. John Monteiro -------------------------------------------------------------------- Regards John Monteiro
