From: "Santosh Helekar" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think as of January 21, 2008 Julia Kim and her followers have been
excommunicated by the Archbishop because of the possibility of fraud, and
the embarrassment these unruly "miraculous" events that she is staging,
might be causing the Church.
***Yes, you are right. The Archbishop of Kwangju Andreas Choi Chang-mou
issued the decree of excommunication latae sententiae on Jan. 21, 2008,
on Julia Youn Kim and her followers for the sake of healthy faith life,
unity and communion of the church. The Archbishop has been directing them
since 1998.
The Archbishop has not denied the Eucharistic phenomena, he has ruled the
chaotic situation created by the propanda in the diocese and other places:
building a shrine
in Naju, South Korea, going from diocese to diocese for healing ministry,
clashing with the
bishops through newspapers and Internet. It requires Archbishop's
permission. The problem is with the discipline, not
with the charisms, provided that there is right discernment in handling
visions and miracles.
**When Dr.Santosh is demanding a scientific proof of the "Eucharistic
miracles", we should demand from him a scientific handling of the data
offered to us by the case. He cannot handle them in an un-scientific way.
Half knowledge is dangerous. Dr.Santosh can produce more
"miracles" by attributing atheistic and agnostic affirmations to the
Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor of Westminster.
Nobody is forbidden to speak of miracles. Jesus of Nazareth has worked them
as it is well attested
in the Gospels. The Church has witnessed to them from the beginning of her
history. The Church teaches us about miracles
in the Council Vatican I and The Catechism of the Catholic Church. Our faith
is not based on miracles alone.
They confirm our faith.
He has also forbidden his subordinates and
co-religionists from propagating these fake miracles on the internet and
through the print media. I guess that would apply to Fr. Ivo as well.
***I am not propagating false "miracles", which would not be miracles at
all. I am not an agent of Julia Youn Kim. I am defending the teaching of the
Church
herself in the light of biblical Revelation and investigating it in the
light of modern science,
which is open to miracles through its concepts of relativity and uncertainty
of quantum physics.
There are criteria given by the Church to discern miracles. There are
Eucharistic miracles in different parts of the world.
Physicians have investigated them. They are real miracles. There are books
on Eucharistic miracles.
Regards.
Fr.Ivo
