From: marlon menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks to poor management and the focus on wrong priorities such as the disastrous Iraq war, the fall of the American economy in the last 8 years has been quite stunning. Whoever wins the next election, will have a difficult challenge ahead of him. I think the fiscally conservative McCain would be a better choice, but Obama may also be ok too. Regardless, either candidate would be better than the monkey currently occupying the white house. I hope monkeys around the world will not be insulted with this reference.

Mario responds:

Wow! What a great opportunity to provide Goanetters with yet another seminar in the use of facts, common sense, context and perspective:-))

I have always said that people are entitled to arrive at whatever opinion they choose to, however misguided, but cannot be allowed to make up their own facts.

Unlike some others featured on Goanet recently, Marlon normally uses recognizable facts. Unfortunately, in the comment above, Marlon has abandoned the use of facts while allowing himself to confuse puerile ridicule with objectivity.

The facts will show that President Bush 43 inherited a declining economy and stock market in 2001 and the US was then hit by the sneak attack on 9/11, before the initial budget that he requested and Congress approved, which contained massive reductions in income tax rates and investment tax rates, was implemented beginning in October 2001.

Thereafter, the US led coalition quickly defeated the Taliban in Afghanistan and the Saddam Hussein regime in Iraq, and assisted the Afghanis and Iraqis respectively to form democratic systems of government, all while being relentlessly opposed by people like Marlon and the entire left wing worldwide. Since then the US has been engaged in helping to defend these nascent democracies against a furious and desperate assault by radical extremists and to build up their own security apparatus. In spite of these burdens undertaken to encourage freedom and democracy where these had never been experienced before, the US economy grew at a moderate rate with low inflation for seven years, until slowing down in the eighth year, while still not slipping into a recession. BTW, for those critics lacking in historical perspective, the US has always had business cycles; they used to be 3 to 4 years in duration until the last two which have been 7 to 8 years in
duration.

So much for the bald faced falsehood that the US has experienced 8 years of a declining economy.

Then we have Marlon's curious support for a fiscally socialist candidate as "ok too" who has already promised to raise tax rates across the board to historic levels, which will push the economy into a deep recession, while promising massive spending increases in government social programs. This is irrational in the context of Marlon's corresponding support for a fiscal conservative and his criticism of the profligate spending in recent years, which were at least partly offset by massive increases in income tax revenues from reduced tax rates.

In the meantime, the growing US federal deficits, which are much publicized by those with an ulterior motive, without relating them to the size of the US economy, have been modest when compared with the growing economy fueled by the reductions in tax rates. The deficit as a percentage of GDP actually fell from 3.5% in 2001 to 1.9% in 2006, and is expected to rise again to the 3 to 4% of GDP range in the next couple of years. Compare this with how the media misrepresents the US deficits.

Not relating the deficit to the size of the economy is like worrying about Donald Trump buying another hotel using debt to finance the purchase. When backed by adequate assets debt is not necessarily a problem. This is why the US has been able to get away with debt financing for so many years.

The US has always encouraged foreigners with brains and money and initiative to participate in its economy as a fundamental foundation of US economic success and vitality since it's inception.

However, if Barack Obama wins the presidency, and the Democrats also retain control of both the US House and Senate as they might, we will experience the dreaded Perfect Storm in US governance. In this case all bets are off on the economy, until Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal are elected in 2012 and return sanity to the US administration.

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