1. Santosh has arrogated to himself  the right to pass judgement on others, 
label or brand those who hold contrary views from his and decide what is the 
truth and what is not. 

Eg: He thrashes reports posted by me as partisan propaganda and rumour 
mongering.
Quote:
I am disappointed that activists fail to recognize the value of objectivity, 
level-headed discussion, and the need to refrain from resorting to partisan 
propaganda and rumor-mongering.
Cheers,Santosh
Unquote
http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=News&list=goanet&info=2008-October/author&post_id=082534

The meaning of propaganda is misinformation, party line, half truths. Can 
Santosh substantiate this ?

He terms the reports partisan and rumour mongering.

The reports posted by me include  personal testimonies of victims and articles  
written by eminent persons like  Shashi Tharoor, former Under Secretary General 
to the UNO and India’s candidate for the post of Secretary General, Khushwant 
Singh, former editor of Hindustan Times and Illustrated Weekly, Michael Pinto, 
former IAS officer and member of the Minorities Commission, Michael Saldanha, 
former Judge of the Karnataka HC, Julio Ribeiro, former DGP and Ambassador to 
Rumania, George Menezes, former diplomat and expert on  management, Ram 
Punayani, former professor of IIT, Mumbai, Maxwell Pereira, former IPS officer, 
Dipankar Gupta, Socialogist and Professor at JNU, Dr Joseph D’Souza, President 
of AICU, Archbishop Agnelo Gracias, B. Raman, former Additional Secretary, Lead 
articles and editorials  in Times of India, Hindu, NDTV, IBN, Outlook, 
Frontline, India Today, Tehelka besides articles and  news reports from the 
mainstream media.         
 
Refer articles by eminent personalities which have already been posted earlier 
on Goanet but which are relevant to this discussion are appended below.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Opinion/Columnists/Shashi_Tharoor/Respect_an_individuals_decision/articleshow/3561097.cms
Respect an individual's decision by Shashi Tharoor 
Stop this Politics of Hate
http://209.85.175.104/search?q=cache:tjHIY6dFQPMJ:timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Opinion/Columnists/Shashi_Tharoor/SHASHI_ON_SUNDAY/Stop_the_politics_of_division/articleshow/msid-3585029,curpg-2.cms+stop+this+politics+of+division+shashi+tharoor&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=in
Hindu Fundamentals are under attack
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Opinion/Columnists/Shashi_Tharoor/SHASHI_ON_SUNDAY/Hindu_fundamentals_are_under_attack/articleshow/3535323.cms
http://sidhusaaheb.blogspot.com
The Communal Psyche- Hapless Christians Handy for Minority Bashing by Dipankar 
Gupta
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/LEADER_ARTICLE_Two_Sides_Of_The_Same_Coin/rssarticleshow/3578075.cms
Two Sides Of The Same Coin by  Harbans Mukhia (Times of India dt. 10.10.2008)
Faith no more by Khushwant Singh
http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?id=064bbc98-99b7-4272-8245-7fc5090f7247
 
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Editorial/Dont_Target_Converts/articleshow/3571221.cms
 
Don't Target Converts  by Michael Pinto
An old testament by George Menezes
http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?sectionName=&id=4127c514-6f85-41f4-bebb-95f81738c492&MatchID1=4814&TeamID1=6&TeamID2=1&MatchType1=1&SeriesID1=1212&PrimaryID=4814&Headline=An+old+testament
http://www.outlookindia.com/fullprint.asp?choice=2&fodname=20081013&fname=Column+Neelabh+%28F%29&sid=1
The Crucifixion of Words by Neelabh Mishra
http://www.outlookindia.com/fullprint.asp?choice=2&fodname=20081006&fname=bajrangdal&sid=1
   
Frankenstein’s Monsters by B Raman
http://www.cbcisite.com/cbcinews2463.htm
Why extremist Hindus attack Christians by Bishop Agnelo Gracias
http://news.in.msn.com/national/article.aspx?cp-documentID=1675049
Maoists take credit for killing VHP leader- Source: Indo-Asian News Service
http://indiatoday.digitaltoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16652&Itemid=1&issueid=74&sectionid=36&limit=1&limitstart=0
The rogue army by Farzand Ahmed  
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/world/asia/13india.html?_r=1&em&oref=slogin

 
Can any of these reports by any stretch of imagination be termed as ‘partisan’, 
‘propaganda’ and ‘rumour mongering’, except by a sick, biased or prejudiced 
mind?

2. Santosh claims  he is objective and  levelheaded in his outlook. This is 
what he says
Mon Oct 13 09:45:35 PDT 2008 

Good to see another broader perspective on this problem being posted here.

Cheers,Santosh--- On Sun, 10/12/08, Rina Mukherji < rina.mukherji at gmail.com 
> wrote:> > Contrary to what Indians here and Christians elsewhere have > been 
told by > evangelical missionaries, media and seculars, the Kandhamal > arson 
is not, as > it has been concocted, a clash between Hindu and Christian > 
faithfuls at > all.The truth is that it is a continuation of the clashes > that 
had started > in early 1990s between the 'Kandha' tribe, which > did not 
convert to > Christianity, and 'Pana' caste people, most of whom > had 
converted.

> > Religion is the spice added to this mix.

http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=News&list=goanet&info=2008-October/author&post_id=082534

This is what the CM of Orissa has to say on the same subject.
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-October/082120.html

Santosh was enamoured by S Gurumurthy’s article which he posted on the net (to 
his credit he later withdrew his remarks once he came to know the loyalties of 
Gurumurthy). But the fact remains that he found the article by Gurumurthy 
credible enough in the first instance. Reports by RSS aligned writers like 
Francois Gauntier and Sudheendra Kulkarni  are applauded as ‘broad 
perspectives’ whilst all the other articles written by eminent persons referred 
to above are thrashed as ‘partisan propaganda’ and ‘rumour mongering’. Isn’t 
this pure hypocrisy? Pray who is objective  and level headed please? Does this 
not show where the sympathies of Santosh lie?

3. Santosh can label and brand those who do not agree with him but feels hurt 
and offended when reciprocated. He has called me a militant political 
operative. Refer
‘The militant activists and political operatives we see on Goanet will keep on 
fighting and blaming each other.
http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=News&list=goanet&info=2008-September/author&post_id=080803
 I let it pass as I did not want to get bogged down to a personal slugfest and 
divert my attention to the core issues being debated. Unfortunately, this 
appears to have been taken as weakness on my part and Santosh felt emboldened 
to use stronger words like ‘partisan propaganda’ and ‘rumour mongering’ to harm 
my credibility. However, he feels offended when I use a generic term of 
‘apologist for the sangh parivar’. 
Quote:
I would like to kindly request Marshall Mendonza not to keep repeating this 
derisive comment against people like me. Comments like this can be perceived to 
be communally motivated. Cheers, Santosh
http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=News&list=goanet&info=2008-October/author&post_id=082649
 
How can he have double standards? What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the 
gander. Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

In conclusion, I wish to state that I have been drawn into what is essentially 
a personal discussion much against my wishes. May I request Santosh to follow 
some basic ground rules:
1.      do not arrogate to yourself all wisdom and intelligence to pass 
judgement on others and determine what is right or wrong. Make your point and 
leave it to the readers to decide.
2.      attack the message but not the messenger. Do not hit below the belt by 
labeling or branding anyone.
3.      You are not God. Do not believe that you are a fountain of all 
knowledge. There is much that you and I do not know. Let us all learn from one 
another.
4.      Be a little humble. We all can be wrong at times.

With this I extend to you my best wishes with no grudge or malice in my heart.

Regards,

Marshall

 


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