--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Chris Vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is high hope indeed, based on the experience or lack
> thereof of Obama. No one has yet been able to provide any
> evidence of accomplishment on the part of Obama. His
> experience as a community organizer, and affiliations with
> the likes of Rev. Wright,(an America-hater and spiritual
> mentor of Obama for 20 years), William Ayres (an unrepentant
> terrorist "we didn't bomb enough"), Tony
> Rezko (a convicted slumlord and Obama financial supporter),
> Rev. Louis Farrakha, Rashid Khalidi, for spokesman for the
> former terrorist organization, the PLO, and other assorted
> and sundry characters would hardly qualify Obama to the
> highest office in the land. He has served in the Illinois
> Senate for four years (with mostly "present"
> votes) and four years in the U.S. Senate (no worthwhile
> legislation) two of which are on the campaign trail for
> president. His singular achievement might be his four
> 'nay' votes in the Illinois Senate against a bill to
> save the lives of babies born alive due to botched
> abortions...>
>
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:53:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
If the low information voters elect Obama even after reading the highly
rational and independent analysis below then they would have committed treason.
>
Mario asks:
>
Santosh,
>
I re-read the excerpt that you have chosen from the post by Chris Vaz and your
response above, and fail to see how "they would have committed treason". At
most "they" would have committed ignorance, since, even allowing for some
rhetorical flourishes by Chris, the essential facts are all fairly accurate,
and stand unrebutted on Goanet.
>
Santosh wrote:
>
Some indisputable facts that were inadvertently left out from this insightful
missive are that this Osama is a Muslim and an anti-American Marxist. Also,
having been born in the Arab country Kenya, he is an Arab, not a decent family
man.
>
Mario responds:
>
I detect some sarcasm here, unless you have suddenly woken up this morning
reincarnated as what we would call a far right wing loon when you refer to
Obama as a Muslim and anti-American Marxist, and an Arab born in Kenya:-))
>
No responsible political opponent of Obama has referred to him as a Muslim. In
fact, his opponent is on record as telling an ignorant supporter that Obama is
not an Arab and is a decent family man.
>
Even though he was listed as a Muslim as a small child on a school registration
form in Indonesia, Obama has been a practicing Christian for the last twenty
years, courtesy his mentor and close family friend, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who
also professes an Afro-centric version of Marxism known as Black Liberation
Theology. Obama is unquestionably a decent family man, and his place of birth
would not, by itself, disqualify him if at least one of his parents was an
American citizen when he was born.
>
Though some of his close political and religious associates and mentors from
Chicago are clearly anti-American and avowed Marxists and unrepentant domestic
anarchists, I would not describe Obama as an anti-American Marxist. However,
Obama has clearly professed a belief in certain Marxist economic principles,
having to do with higher tax rates on upper income Americans, which may or may
not increase actual taxes collected, "redistributing" wealth by government fiat
and sharply increasing the role of government in the day-to-day lives of
citizens, principles that have never been used to the extent he is suggesting
in the USA previously.
>
In my opinion, a big loser of an Obama presidency will be India, mainly because
of the deeper economic slowdown that will result if he lets the Bush tax rate
cuts lapse, which will raise the tax rates for all Americans, even before he
implements his own tax plans, and the protectionist trade policies he has
already promised his union supporters will be among his highest priorities.
>
Which is why I find it amusing and ironic to see his support among Indians in
America and India. Not to mention their ignorance of the contempt that many
educated African-Americans hold for educated Indians.
>
Anyway, Chris has listed his concluding expectations in some detail, and we
will be able to monitor these in the months and years to come - if Obama wins
of course.
>
