The US has been socialized for quite a while from many aspects.
Lets start with agriculture, where huge subsidies are given to the agro 
businesses. Food products and fuels such as cheap ethanol from Brazil cant be 
imported because the agri lobby wants subsidies to continue for its expensive 
locally grown corn for ethanol. This boondoggle was initiated by Bush. On a 
related front, Mahindra which was supposed to import its trucks targeted for 
the agri business, is being forced to review its plans thanks to a 25% import 
duty on its trucks. Free trade?? Hmm.

Another dubious program from the Bush era is the largest expansion of 
socialized medicine ala its expansion of medicaid prescriptions for the 
elderly. 

Taxes in America are ridiculously high - specially when compared to countries 
like China and India. It may be quite a shock to know that when all the taxes 
are added, an individual is taxed between 40-60% of his income. The differences 
between the the US parties is minuscule and amounts to a few percentage points.

Obviously the current administration is only adding to the fires started by the 
incompetent (or asleep at the wheel) Bush administration. The current downturn 
is a natural correction to the excesses of the past and the American govt. and 
people must be brave enough and take it on the chin. The current spending 
stimulus programs are more akin to a drug addict promising this to be yet 
another last hit, before he returns to sobriety sometime way in the future.

The US must gradually return to its old, self reliant model - eliminate social 
security, medicaid (Mario, send me your checks) and welfare. It needs to become 
more American and less Canadian.  Its military force (man power) needs to be 
reduced and in part be substituted with cheaper foreign mercenary forces.  All 
restrictions on foreign labor must be removed. If an American can be replaced 
with an as qualified, but cheaper foreign worker, the employer should have the 
right to do so, without the bogus security provisions now in place that put 
enormous burdens on industry. The role of the US government should be focused 
on just the basics - to provide the basics such as education, health care for 
children and the handicapped and defense, with no allusions of empire and 
forward force projection. The US can only maintain its world dominance though 
technological superiority coupled with a low cost economic base. I believe it 
still has elements of the former,
 but definitely not the latter.

The US is still the most dynamic economy in the world, given that it is still 
the most free market economy. The severity of this recession is an indication 
of the rapid changes and adjustments taking place here. This is a good thing. 
We need to let the government to step out of the way and let individuals and 
businesses take care of themselves (or not). China and even India seem to have 
a lot of this free wheeling, can do spirit today. However, their larger 
economic ecosystems are still heavily controlled by their governments, which 
puts an ultimate damper on things.

Marlon

--- On Mon, 3/23/09, Mario Goveia <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Mario Goveia <[email protected]>
Subject: [Goanet]  America - A Socialist Economy
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 11:03 AM


Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:29:01 -0400
From: Roland Francis <[email protected]>

Canadian Goanet readers must be having the last laugh after hearing
Mario Goveia repeatedly call Canada a socialist economy.

Yesterday I read that:
AIG one of America's largest corporations is now 80% owned by the government.

That takes it to the level of an Indian nationalized bank.
There must be countless other US corporations that are in the same
predicament as AIG. After all, the US deficit this year is 1.8
trillion dollars.

Mario responds:

Roland,

Surely you know better than most that certain Canadian Goanetters are among the 
most uninformed about the US than anyone else, and maybe laughing too soon - 
schadenfreude only goes so far.

To begin with, surely you couldn't have missed my opposition to the US being 
turned into a socialist-like economy by the election of President Obama and his 
teleprompter, aided and abetted by Democrat majorities in the Legislature as 
the American pendulum swung to the other side once again.

In the meantime, every basket case economy in the world is run on socialist 
principles and countries around the world are running away from extreme 
socialism as fast as they can.  Even France and Germany and Russia have scoffed 
at the massive bailout and government intervention plans of President Obama and 
his teleprompter.

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