--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Gilbert Lawrence <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> If scientific (expensive) medicines can use the placebo effect
> as the studies show, why would not the same pathways apply
> to / be used by Ayurveda, homeopathy, alternative
> medicines, nutraceuticals, etc.?
> 
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 21:13:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Santosh Helekar <[email protected]>

I have no idea what the first part of the above question means. Any properly 
scientifically tested and validated medicine approved for ethical use, by 
definition, has to be more effective than a placebo, irrespective whether it is 
expensive or inexpensive. Alternative rituals that have not been tested for 
safety and efficacy in randomized placebo-controlled trials are by the same 
token of questionable utility.

Mario adds:

I continue to be amazed by the misconceptions being persistently proposed by 
some registered medical practitioners, who should know better.

Even I know that placebos, by definition, have no "pathways" that any 
knowledgeable medical practitioner can "use" or know what to do with in 
treating a patient.  This would be like giving them a bottle of colored water 
and asking them to take one tablespoon three times a day - the color only meant 
to make the beverage seem like a medicine.

Now, if the beverage were feni, then we may have something useful:-))

The real question is why "...Ayurveda, homeopathy, alternative medicines, 
nutraceuticals" etc. cannot be tested in head-to-head blind studies against 
placebos just like every allopathic medication has to go through before being 
approved for widespread use by the competent authorities. After all, most of 
these have been around long enough.

The prescribing physician knows within a narrow range the probability of 
effectiveness of an allopathic medication and this information comes from the 
studies.  They also know the possible side effects and how the medication may 
conflict with or be enhanced by other medications the patient may be taking.

I suspect the reason is that the sellers and manufacturers and proponents of 
alternative treatments cannot afford to put these to objective testing because 
we may find out that they are useless, which would put millions of "snake oil" 
salesmen and women out of business.

Many allopathic medications, too, fail such tests and no one will ever hear of 
those in the marketplace.  On the other hand, the occasional "alternative 
treatment" does pass muster when tested.  I know Santosh will correct me if I'm 
wrong but I once heard of an extensive study in Britain which found that 
chiropractic performed better than orthopedics in treating back pain due to 
spinal problems.

In the meantime the gullible who are fooled into "believing" that these 
"alternative" concoctions or procedures work pay the price and take their 
chances with what is essentially gambling with their health.





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