Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:46:31 +0530
From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" <[email protected]>

I found Mario Goveia's personal remarks on Selma Carvalho insensitive. And I 
think they would divert the attention from her other points.

Mario observes:

Dr. Barad,

INSENSITIVE?  MOI?  GOD FORBID!

What points are you worried about?  The last time I checked, Selma hasn't even 
made her points yet - she had just threatened to do so.  I said I was holding 
my breath in ecstatic anticipation of her pearls of wisdom:-))

Dr. Barad wrote:

He seems to imply that the way building permits are issued in Goa are not
democratic.  What he should say is whether the system of Gram Sabha, where
the attendance is only 2% of the eligible membership, more democratic.

Mario responds:

This is too much.  My English is much clearer than this.  Without understanding 
what I have said, Dr. Barad has the nerve to tell me what I should say.

Dr. Barad, I think you need to re-read my post:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179516.html

I clearly ASKED the gracious and perspicacious Selma to tell us whether the 
problem with the Gram Sabhas, which SHE says is a "perversion of democracy", is 
the DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM of Gram Sabhas, or is it "citizen apathy", i.e. not 
enough citizens motivated enough to attend the meetings and participate in 
their serious democratic responsibility to provide their opinion.  I have no 
idea whather the attendance is 2%, but even 50% would be too low in my opinion, 
even though some observers will argue that voluntarily not attending is also 
like voting, i.e. agreeing to agree with those who do attend the meetings.  I 
personally don't like this careless style of democracy. 

Previously, the fearlessly opinionated Selma has told us that the best people 
to control the approval of building projects are government bureaucrats at the 
state government level.  I suggested that, with the corruption in Goa, putting 
such decisions in the hands of a centralized government agency can hardly be 
any less of a "perversion of democracy" than the Gram Sabhas - as long as these 
grass roots organizations were functioning like they were supposed to with a 
high majority of members providing input, and not being controlled by a very 
few rich and famous people.

Once she writes her analysis, probably titled, "Who the bleep cares about grass 
roots democracy"  we will be in a better position to understand her opinion.  
Since I'm holding my breath, I only hope I don't run out of oxygen:-))



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