Dear Joe, I am not attempting to salvage President Eisenhower reputation. In sharing those links I as usual am sharing a small part of what I encounter, come across or find in areas spanning religion, sexuality and consciousness.+++
So, my saying: worth a listen, is exactly that. You, on your part obviously know a lot about Eisenhower, and your post fleshes him out. In doing so perhaps some Goanetters were educated. Quite possibly this topic may result in a discussion with friends. And in doing so its is very probable that comparisons will be made in making sense of personages and politics in India. My point is the above and only the above +++ as always. BUT, I hear what you say and others WILL TOO. Now on a parallel note from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Infantry_Regiment_(United_States): The *442nd Infantry*, formerly the *442nd Regimental Combat Team* of the United States Army <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army>, was an Asian American <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_American> unit composed of mostly Japanese Americans <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American> who fought in Europe during World War II.[1]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Infantry_Regiment_(United_States)#cite_note-GlobalSecurity-0> The families of many of its soldiers were subject to internment<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment>. The 442nd was a self-sufficient fighting force, and fought with uncommon distinction in Italy, southern France, and Germany. The unit became the most highly decorated regiment in the history of the United States Armed Forces<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces>, including 21 Medal of Honor <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medal_of_Honor> recipients. The motto of the 442nd Regimental Combat Team was “go for broke.” It’s a gambling term that means risking everything on one great effort to win big. The soldiers of the 442nd needed to win big. They were Nisei<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nisei> - American-born sons of Japanese immigrants. They fought two wars: the Germans in Europe and the prejudice in America. Imagine the above,. Their families of :of many of its soldiers were subject to internment <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment>"--yet they fought and as in expressed in that singular word that we often hear thrown out (Kargil for instance)--with valour. It takes certain people to do certain things, at CERTAIN TIMES and they are credited for the good and the bad. This implies that things were not churning, there was no lead up. This includes a common citizen or others whose speeches we heard being recited at Elocution in India. What is interesting is that in the Founders saying that all people are equal--Blacks began to want nothing else BUT BE regarded AS EQUAL. And they did everything in heir bone to do just that against every odd throw at them. I AM NOT SAYING that the founders did nit do them a favor, but these constructs came out from the notion of Democracy which although it may have roots in Rome--realized fruition as we see it in America--as well as MORE CONCRETE notions of what IT SHOULD BE. and even IS in places and by peoples all over the world. Having said that always remember that the forces in American politics are complex--and as we learn the same holds true for politics in general. To mean, that we may only take what good we find in the country, in its people, in opportunities if one can seek and find them--and resist what is not palatable. America is very unusual in many ways. A small example AT MY LEVEL: In 1992 I represented America in Japan (I was an Indian citizen, and still am). No one bat an eyelid because I had topped the US in the competition and was second in the world. The first was a Korean--a lovely person. I was on my F1 visa which meant that it expires when I leave the country, the consulate in Osaka gave me a new one once they realized the circumstances--startled as they were. There is more on other matters all at my level, but no further point would be made. Again here comparisons may be made with recent events in India. Once again, it takes certain people to do certain things, at CERTAIN TIMES and they are credited for the good and the bad. This implies that things were not churning, there was no lead up. I am a mere artist but I am not given to knee jerk adulation, or commiseration. I am given to knee-jerk help -- something that I am steadily resisting. But I can joyfully say one thing -- if there is one thing that people could learn from me is ++++++++++++ venantius j pinto Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 18:06:21 -0400 > From: " Joe lOBO" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Goanet] Eisenhower's Farewell Address Jan 17, 1961 Pt > I-2 (Towards a Goodness of Time) > > > Venantius, > In my opinion President Eisenhower was just the same of one of > your signatories to the Declaration of Independence ie : General > George Washington.....he beleived that all men were equal ,except > Black people, It took Abraham Lincoln to declare the immorality of > slavery. > What did Gen. Eisenhower do in his eight years of presidency for > black men who had fought and died for the USA in the 2nd WW.? > It appears , as far he was concerned, they were just fit to sit > at the back of the buses. He did squat about the inequality of > racial segregation. it took a president like John F. Kennedy to declare > that segregation and denying the blacks equal opprtunity was immoral > and had to be done away with. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Venantius J Pinto" <[email protected]> > To: "Goanet Mail list" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:27 PM > Subject: [Goanet] Eisenhower's Farewell Address Jan 17, 1961 Pt I-2 > (Towards > a Goodness of Time) > > > > Worth a listen, Eisenhower's Farewell Address Jan 17, 1961 Pt 1-2 (IN > > REVERSE order) > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCRDp4OF5Ig&feature=related> > > Eisenhower's Farewell Address Jan 17, 1961 Pt 2 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCRDp4OF5Ig&feature=related > > > > Eisenhower's Farewell Address Jan 17, 1961 Pt 1 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnaM8TqAzzo&feature=related > > > > ++++++++++++ > > venantius j pinto > > * > > ** >
