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    NEW BOOK:  'PATRIOTISM IN ACTION: Goans in Indias Defence Services'
         With Foreword by Gen SF Rodrigues, PVSM, VSM, ADC (retd)
                    former Chief of Indian Army Staff
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Interesting debate. I guess if all those people so concerned about
dirty in India (and, by extension, in post-1961 Goa) had to stay back
at home, ours would have been a less dirty place!

There was an online question recently: "Why is africa and many third
world countries so dirty and underdeveloped?"

The answers are most interesting. Like the India/Goa debate, it says
more about us (and our attitudes) than about the reality itself:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100910041951AAkBDWU

* Many countries are without support systems such as welfare and Non
Government organisations for those without jobs or those who are sick.
Without employment or any government assistance, many people cannot
afford basic living standards that we take for granted such as clean
water and housing.

* The only people that say that are the people that read the negative
propaganda we hear and read today.

* Africans are the most useless things in the history of the world.
They have the same resourses as any other country but the leaders
steal everything and the people are too lazy to do anything for
themselves, preferring to hold out the begging bowl with the typical
sense of entitlement. If Dubai can do something with themselves and
all they have is sand, there's no excuse for anyone else. I spent 20
years in Africa (Malawi) so speak from experience. Watch all the
liberals here shriek 'racist' when confronted with facts.

* Suppression by those countries leaders!!! THEY have the technology
and use towards their own ends!

* take your pick from colonialism, corruption, traditional tribal and
class structures, lack of investment, lack of infrastructure,
exploitation by developed nations, lack of natural resources, poor
governance, civil war and ethnic conflict... all of these contribute
but it is important to remember that the specific reasons differ from
country to country. parts of africa are booming though- 10% growth in
nigeria this year for a start

* You can't possibly believe you've seen Africa on TV- it's huge and
includes all kinds of things. There is a real history of colonization
of Africa, though. Most of the nations on the map of Africa had to
fight for their independence from European colonizers in the twentieth
century- not long ago. That might be  the only generalizable effect
for the continent's many nations.

FN

Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490
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